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# 61 edwing @ 05/26/09 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
Manning is a more accomplished passer. Moss changed everything. Remember, Moss put Culpepper and a post-retirement Cunnigham in the Pro-Bowl. He's a QB maker.
Personally, I think Brady is more of a WR maker than Moss is a QB maker. I mean, if Moss couldn't make the Raiders at least DECENT during his time there, and yet Brady could accomplish so much and make average WRs such as Deion Branch and Reche Caldwell look good, I question the validity of your argument. Look where Moss is now, with Brady, and look where Branch and Caldwell are now. They are nowhere close to the same as when they had Brady around throwing passes to them. Moss, I admit, probably lost all his interest and effort while playing for the Raiders, and having Brady has just rejuvenated his career, but the whole reason why he lost interest with the Raiders in the first place was because of a QB that couldn't bring the best out of him. In my mind though, (Peyton) Manning and Brady are both equals, as they have both shown that they can carry below average WRs when needed.
 
# 62 Candyman5 @ 05/26/09 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by acts238shaun
TO's CIT is too high for all of his drops, Jason Whitten is a tad too slow (78-80 IMO), Brady's THP must be switched with his TAS, Westbrook shouldn't have 99 agility and Polemalu and Patrick Willis have a lower play rec. than they should. Everything else seems ok.
I was one of the only ones in the Rating thread that said he is a 87 overall at best that cant run between the tackles and can get to top speed fast but isn't a high speed runner...
 
# 63 nepatriotsfan @ 05/26/09 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Glorious Arc
You really did just prove his point. Harrison required you to throw accurately to him and thread the needle to get him the ball. He is amazing but he also had an amazing QB.

I could score 20 touchdowns in the NFL with Moss lol. Just throw the ball up in the general area and Moss will almost always outperform the DB for the ball.
but surely i think his stats wouldn't be the same if he was working with what brady was before the overhaul of the pats recieving corps
 
# 64 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Glorious Arc
SBs mean nothing and they mean everything. Look at Moss highlights then look at Harrison highlights. Notice how often does Moss leave the ground in comparison to Harrison...Harrison did as good as he did because he had hands and could get open and finish. Manning gave him the ball in stride and basicly said hold out your hands and catch the ball. Moss did as good as he has because he is a freak who can catch. Moss didnt need good QBs to perform. He would make the play himself even if the ball wasnt near him.

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I'm sitting here thinking, who is the most feared WR ever?
 
# 65 the drewster @ 05/26/09 10:07 PM
you can tell all the screens are from the old build because the panthers helmet is messed up in one of the screens. In the new build they are fixed (the thick blue strip on the helmet)
 
# 66 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nepatriotsfan
but surely i think his stats wouldn't be the same if he was working with what brady was before the overhaul of the pats recieving corps
and you call yourself a Pats fan? Brady was passing for 3000+ with Reche Caldwell and an old Troy Brown!!!!!

I laugh at people who think Tom Brady is overrated. "Well maybe you should check his CHAMPIONSHIP RING DISPLAY CASE...."
 
# 67 WFColonel56 @ 05/26/09 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4solo
Hell yea i totally agree; Roddy White is def not better than T.O.
Yea rite.....you funny......Just look at the stats White is like 3rd or 4th in yards.(I think he is behind Steve Smith by like 40 yards)...Plus TO drops sooooo many balls and i think TO is like 11th in yards....White iz a Beast and he is young.....


Oh my fault, TO is 13th in yards
 
# 68 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
Best= Rice.

Most feared= Moss.

Moss cannot be covered 1 on 1 under modern pass coverage rules.
WHEN I PLAYED SUPER TECMO BOWL, I FEARED JERRY RICE. EVERY SINCE HE'S BEEN ON MADDEN, I'VE FEARED RANDY MOSS. THE GUY IS A PLAYMAKER.
 
# 69 edwing @ 05/26/09 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
Your argument is killed by the fact that Brady never played for the Raiders, currently the second worst franchise in the NFL.

So...um...no.
Has P.Manning ever played for the Raiders? I don't think so. All I am trying to say, using your Raiders example, is that if you put Brady into the 'second worst franchise in the NFL', he would probably have a great season, whereas if you put, say, Jamarcus Russell with Moss, then their success wouldn't be as prevalent than having Brady on the Raiders. Face it, Brady is a franchise QB, a top 2-3 QB that can carry a team wherever he goes. He has more of an effect on a team than Moss would have, in most cases.
 
# 70 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iamaballa
Has P.Manning ever played for the Raiders? I don't think so. All I am trying to say, using your Raiders example, is that if you put Brady into the 'second worst franchise in the NFL', he would probably have a great season, whereas if you put, say, Jamarcus Russell with Moss, then their success wouldn't be as prevalent than having Brady on the Raiders. Face it, Brady is a franchise QB, a top 2-3 QB that can carry a team wherever he goes. He has more of an effect on a team than Moss would have, in most cases.
Thank you for the great post. I feel most QB's make WRs good,there are only a few WRS that can make a QB good,and Randy Moss is one of them. I just sit here and imagine how Peyton's stats would be with Moss catching his passes....lord he'd probably break Brady's record.

Instead of being a mindless *****,be grateful of the fact that you can tell stories to your grandkids one day that you saw one of the most lethal QB-WR tandems ever. RESPECT GREATNESS AND STOP HATING SO MUCH!
 
# 71 WFColonel56 @ 05/26/09 10:25 PM
Roddy White

RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

88 1,382 15.7 86.4 70T 7 18 4 61 69.3 1


Terrell Owens

RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

69 1,05215.2 65.8 75T 10 15 6 38 55.1 1


(i did my best to copy and paste)(you can figure it out)

as you can see White out played TO.......and dont say its becuz of the number of whites catches becuz White has a better average of yards per catch than TO
 
# 72 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WFColonel56
Roddy White

RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

88 1,382 15.7 86.4 70T 7 18 4 61 69.3 1


Terrell Owens

RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

69 1,05215.2 65.8 75T 10 15 6 38 55.1 1


(i did my best to copy and paste)

as you can see White out played TO.......and dont say its becuz of the number of whites catches becuz White has a better average of yards per game than TO
somebody go to the game tape and tell me how many double teams Roddy White had to face while he caught those passes.
Man you guys crack me up. Numbers aren't everything...if thats the case, like someone SAID on another post, Charlie Batch should be in the HOF over Drew Brees and D-Mac:
numbers-----Batch 2 rings, Brees and DMac 0.

He's better right? LMAO
 
# 73 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
By that logic, Mike Vrabel is an all-time great. Wanna put him in the HOF too?
DAMN STEELER FANS!! LOL j/K

i guess some people haven't seen the lebron/kobe 3 ring commercial....
 
# 74 WFColonel56 @ 05/26/09 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrville
And a above average QB for 5 more games.
Where was Matt Ryan Last year when white was tied for 8th in yards and TO was 5th

TO
RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

81 1,355 16.7 90.3 52T 15 22 6 69 85.2 0


White
RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

83 1,202 14.5 75.1 69T 6 19 2 52 62.7 3



so you are saying that Romo isnt near as good as CHRIS REDMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO? CHRIS REDMAN!!!!!!

Give the man his props and give him his ratings
 
# 75 TheWatcher @ 05/26/09 10:38 PM
There are no more viable arguments against Tom Brady. His ugly yellow jacket was already made years ago, it's just sitting in Canton waiting for him to put it on. It's a wrap. When he retires, set your watches to 5 years from that date, tune into ESPN, and you'll see him wearing that disgusting blazer.

Only a terrible ***** could possibly try to discredit a man that's accomplished everything but a 4th Super Bowl ring, which he would've gotten had the Patriots coaching staff not devised one of the dumbest offensive gameplans ever, or if the defense full of Pro Bowlers, All-Pro's and future HOF'ers didn't decide to meltdown 5 times on one drive. And he ran an offense for 3 championship wins never having a single great WR on those title teams. Antwan Smith as the #1 back in two of them, lol. I could see if the man was a caretaker QB like Trent Dilfer, but the man was making clutch throws constantly. His highlight films are full of them. It got to the point that when it was a clutch situation and he dropped back you could pretty much guarantee that it was going to be on the money.

Remember how he sliced up that Panther defense in Super Bowl 38? He also set the Super Bowl record for completions that day (32). And that was against a Panther defense that at the time was one of the best in football. He cut those boys up like chopped liver.

The man is greatness personified, and he and Peyton Manning defined this era the same way Montana and Marino defined their's. A person can argue all day long that Brady wasn't this or that (and it's laughable at this point... it actually has been for years really), but his stats, wins and great moments say otherwise. That legacy has been recorded, it can't be denied and it won't be except by haters who refuse to accept reality and give an all-time great player his proper respect.
 
# 76 edwing @ 05/26/09 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
WHAT?!!?

And you base this fantasy on WHAT? Cassell already PROVED that Brady's big numbers could be replaced by a HIGH SCHOOL QUARTERBACK.

Come on man...
And Brady has already proved that he can carry WRs like Branch, Patten, Brown, Stallworth, Gaffney, and Caldwell throughout his career and still put up all star numbers. As for Cassell, I'm going to hold off on making a statement on him - maybe he's the real deal - we'll just have to see this season if he is just a 'high school quarterback' or a legit #1 starter in the league.
 
# 77 droopizzle34 @ 05/26/09 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WFColonel56
Where was Matt Ryan Last year when white was tied for 8th in yards and TO was 5th

TO
RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

81 1,355 16.7 90.3 52T 15 22 6 69 85.2 0


White
RecYdsAvgYds/GLngTD20+40+1st1st%FUM

83 1,202 14.5 75.1 69T 6 19 2 52 62.7 3



so you are saying that Romo isnt near as good as CHRIS REDMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO? CHRIS REDMAN!!!!!!

Give the man his props and give him his ratings
i don't get the flak, White is a good WR(why didn't he catch all of Mike Vick's passes!!!! ),but I mean why would you compare his numbers to an over the hill T.O's numbers?

I'll take T.O in his prime over White any day.
 
# 78 TheWatcher @ 05/26/09 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
WHAT?!!?

And you base this fantasy on WHAT? Cassell already PROVED that Brady's big numbers could be replaced by a HIGH SCHOOL QUARTERBACK.

Come on man...
Brady threw 50 TD passes with that offense. Cassel threw 21. That's hardly a replacement. I wouldn't expect Cassel to do any better than that considering he was making his first starts, however. He had a solid year, but he was no Tom Brady, not even the second year Tom Brady as far as I'm concerned.
 
# 79 Glorious Arc @ 05/26/09 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
WHAT?!!?

And you base this fantasy on WHAT? Cassell already PROVED that Brady's big numbers could be replaced by a HIGH SCHOOL QUARTERBACK.

Come on man...
A fairly valid point. Cassell put up numbers comparable to Brady before Moss. Brady is a good QB and when he got his new toy aka Moss he put up better numbers then before. Would Brady/Manning be better on another team IDK. No one does. My only beef is that Brady's arm strength currently overrated. It needs to be lowered to 90-92.

Another thing I would like to add right now is Manning could have put up better numbers during his record breaking season. There were several games that they were called off and stopped throwing the ball. How many times during Brady's record breaking season did we see him passing the ball when they were up by 30+ points?
 
# 80 cha0ss0ldier @ 05/26/09 10:43 PM
LOL at everyone all over TO.

Right now Roddy White is a better WR then TO...deal with it.
 


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