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EA Sports Plans To Digitize Madden 11 Consumer (IGN)

09:17 PM - March 1, 2010 by bang911

Madden NFL 11 fans should expect to purchase digital content this season, according to this write up from IGN.

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	""I think we need to move much quicker, in particular with Madden, through a digital world," Moore stated. "You're going to see more announcements there how we digitize our Madden consumer. It keeps the disc in the drive longer, it stalls trading the game in, it allows me to be able to take further advantage of that consumer over a longer period of time," he said. "Even if we do get second sales, we see that as an opportunity to drive digital margins." "Sports games, because their seasonality runs out, are always something tempting to trade in. We've got to be able to build business models around allowing that consumer to trade it in and then monetize them," he added "We're certainly going to do a lot of that this year."

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# 41 RedZoneD25 @ 03/02/10 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djordan


	You guys will be in line for Madden 11...Mark my words lol.

count me out.

# 42 mattsb84 @ 03/02/10 12:52 PM

Peter Moore is kind of dumb. This is the same nonsensical drivel he used for the justification of discontinuing the PC version of Madden. Instead of bringing the next-gen version to the PC, they let it stagnate, the sales plummeted and in Moore's head, the issue isn't the quality of the game, because, well MetaCritic says the game is good. The bottom line says the game is stale and people don't want to pay $30 for a roster update, and the later version were more or less that.

Now this. He really does an awesome job of taking control of something and completely destroying it. The purpose of a business is to make money, but there is also the people who pay for that product. The company exists to provide CONSUMERS with a quality product. The consumers dictate what the company can get away with by either spending their money or not. I currently refuse to give money to EA. I bought the last version of Madden for PC in 08 for $15. I'm certainly not going to be one of the six million who gets "taken further advantage of". Awful.

# 43 roadman @ 03/02/10 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ComfortablyLomb


	Specifically, their focus is apparently on bleeding the consumer dry.

Yeah, I agree. Moore could have stated the whole answer differently with more professionalism.

I will say, as a business owner, last year our profits were down, so, we had to deliver creative ways to make money from our customers. I had to look at it that way or else face the possibility of going out of business.

# 44 KensaiKatai @ 03/02/10 01:15 PM

Horrible choice of words by Peter Moore, things are tepid enough as it is.

# 45 PAPERNUT @ 03/02/10 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by marktg30


	I think I just made my decision on Madden 11 based on those comments. Pretty much tells me that EA has been holding back on anything truly groundbreaking in order to squeeze every dime out of the consumer. It truly speaks volumes of what 'corporate' is doing to the devs. It seems to me that Ian and his team have the desire to make leaps and bounds with their game but Moore is probably the guy saying, "Lets hold back on all those Franchise Features and include one or two. We can hold off on Online Franchise updates, they will pay extra for those next year. etc etc etc.".

I agree. I have been waiting for an excuse to grow up and stop gaming and this will be it if it happens. I used to buy all the major titles for sports games from EA for years, but now with the economy and the fact most games are bugged and half completed when released, I am down to 1 or 2 games from them a year. That will be 0 if we have to pay for parts of a game instead of the whole.

# 46 thudias @ 03/02/10 01:30 PM

Yikes...how could something like this get out of the Machine?

# 47 splff3000 @ 03/02/10 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Yeah, I agree. Moore could have stated the whole answer differently with more professionalism.

Whoa!!! I never see Roadman go against EA. Peter Moore has really messed up now.

As much as I hate the comments Peter Moore made, I'm not gonna sit here and say that I'm not gonna buy the game because, well to be honest, I probably am. Like I said earlier, this is really like a slap in the face, but hey, what can you do? If I want to play with the Raiders, I have to play madden. I know once football season get's closer, I'm gonna start getting that itch again. Unless Backbreaker is truly ground breaking, I'm probably gonna be picking up Madden 11. A lot of you are as well. Don't kid yourself. Djordan was right. Some of you will even pick it up at midnight lol. As soon as Ian and the crew start doing there blogs and stuff you all will forget all about this and start getting on board the hype train. Let's not kid ourselves and sit here and say that we're not going to buy Madden 11 because of these comments. If it's a great game....you're gonna buy it. Now if it's a crappy game and you don't buy it because of that, that's one thing, but if it's a great game, no one here is gonna NOT buy it because Peter Moore said this.

# 48 ScoobySnax @ 03/02/10 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	I'm just .0031% of that .0031%, but I'm still seriously considering boycotting on principle alone. This article was ridiculous. If gamers are trading in a sports title 4 weeks into the regular season, it might have something to do with the games quality. Maybe that's where EA should focus it's efforts, not on how they can take further advantage of their customers.

I hear you man. It's definitely tasteless.

# 49 KBLover @ 03/02/10 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	If it's a great game....you're gonna buy it. Now if it's a crappy game and you don't buy it because of that, that's one thing, but if it's a great game, no one here is gonna NOT buy it because Peter Moore said this.

Depends on what's being held out.

It could fix all the problems, but if I have to pay for roster updates or to get extra franchise features that should be a part of the mode anyway (say you have to pay if you want training camps or multiple progressions throughout the year) - then no, I won't be buying it. I have skipped Madden before, I can do so again and go back to text-sim (that Pro Football Simulator looks interesting and there's FOF or Football Mogul), or just play HC more. If people can still play APF2008 or NFL2K5 - I can play HC 09.

I'm not going to pay $60+whatever else to get features that should be a part of the game from the start.

# 50 kjcheezhead @ 03/02/10 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by djordan


	You guys will be in line for Madden 11...Mark my words lol.

Madden 11 is different. Madden 10 was the game that was gonna change the direction of the franchise. Even with developer interaction and a focus on the core of football, Madden 10 is still terrribly flawed. I was already at zero excitement for Madden 11 because the only thing Madden 10 did for me is convince me that the flaws in this game are so deep I'll probably never enjoy Madden on this system.

Add these comments to that and if Backbreaker is solid, come May 18th, I won't even be following this game this year. I guarantee Madden will not be purchased new by me and it will take twice the improvements from 09-10 to get me to buy it used.

# 51 splff3000 @ 03/02/10 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KBLover


	Depends on what's being held out. It could fix all the problems, but if I have to pay for roster updates or to get extra franchise features that should be a part of the mode anyway (say you have to pay if you want training camps or multiple progressions throughout the year) - then no, I won't be buying it. I have skipped Madden before, I can do so again and go back to text-sim or heck, fire up FBPro 98 again (or old Madden PCs and make rosters). I'm not going to pay $60+whatever else to get features that should be a part of the game from the start.

I didn't really take the comments to mean that they were going to start leaving things out so they can get people to pay for them later. I took it as they were trying to find more things they can add in to charge you for ie more uniforms, more stadiums, more cheats, etc. I think the core game will still be there. I definitely don't think they would charge for roster updates. The whole purpose was to keep people from trading games in. If people couldn't get their roster updates, the game would become pretty much useless halfway through the season when the surprise teams were showing up. It would really suck if the Raiders had a 10-0 record in real life

, but you had to play with the default rosters that shipped with the game. Without a doubt, I'd trade it in( I never buy DLC for ANY game). I'm sure many others would do the same. In turn, it would defeat the purpose of trying to get people to pay for it, because people would trade in the game because of it. SO, I think the core game will still be there. I just think there will be more DLC nonsense. I didn't have a problem with that part of the comment. The problem I had with the comments had to do with the "taking advantage of" part.

# 52 splff3000 @ 03/02/10 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjake62505


	I agree with what you have said, but Madden hasn't been great in a long time. There are many other options to buying games other than release day and a $60.00+ price tag. I will never buy another game from EA on release day and I will wait untill ALL patches are released for the game. I think this is what is hurting EA and the wigs are trying to find ways to work around this, hence the "not trading games in" remark. Madden 10 was my first Madden purchase since 06, granted I played the game during those years but I never bought the game. 10 was a great improvement but it took 6 months for EA to get a final patch out and that is just unacceptable.

I agree and this is the approach that I'm taking this year. I stood in line at midnight to pick up 10 ( the first time since 05 on the PS2) and I'm not doing it again. For the first time ever, I'm gonna wait a few weeks and see what the complaints are and then see what the patches will entail. EA has not lost me yet, but they are losing me and just like KJcheezhead, if backbreaker is good, all of this may be moot anyway.

# 53 Valdarez @ 03/02/10 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	I'm just .0031% of that .0031%, but I'm still seriously considering boycotting on principle alone. This article was ridiculous. If gamers are trading in a sports title 4 weeks into the regular season, it might have something to do with the games quality. Maybe that's where EA should focus it's efforts, not on how they can take further advantage of their customers.

Amen. It's not lack of 'digital content' that causes gamers to trade in the game. It's the quality. Quality games stay in the console, not on the shelf, or traded in 4 weeks later. End of story.

Focus on quality of YOUR product Mr. Moore, instead of trying to bleed your customer base. That's business 101.

# 54 Valdarez @ 03/02/10 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	I didn't really take the comments to mean that they were going to start leaving things out so they can get people to pay for them later.

Yeah, they are already doing that in Madden '10. Instead of giving away the test codes they use, for free, you have to pay for them as 'DLC'. So they definitely aren't going to 'start' doing it. They already are doing it.

# 55 splff3000 @ 03/02/10 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Valdarez


	Yeah, they are already doing that in Madden '10. Instead of giving away the test codes they use, for free, you have to pay for them as 'DLC'. So they definitely aren't going to 'start' doing it. They already are doing it.

Since they have started DLC, have they ever gave test codes away for free? I'm not trying to be a smartarse or nothing. I genuinely don't know. I don't usually pay attention to stuff like that. What I meant by my statement though, was I don't think they will be keeping something that was in 10 out of 11 so they can charge for it. Things like roster updates I figure would continue to be free.

# 56 roadman @ 03/02/10 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Whoa!!! I never see Roadman go against EA. Peter Moore has really messed up now.

Hardy har har.

I call it as I see it and this was pretty blatant.

I just don't get caught up on things that are thrown up in the air and hope they land somewhere.

# 57 coogrfan @ 03/02/10 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ComfortablyLomb


	Specifically, their focus is apparently on bleeding the consumer dry.

Anyone who is going to be "bled dry" by an extra $4-5 per title probably shouldn't be spending money on something as trivial as video games in the first place.

There isn't a business in America that isn't looking for ways to make more money. To pretend otherwise is hopelessly naive.

# 58 kjcheezhead @ 03/02/10 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Segagendude


	Just release Madden as an Iphone app and be done with it. That's where it's headed anyway. I kid...... I really don't know what this "digitize Madden" means. As long as M11 continues on the improvement path, I won't bother to pay extra $$$ for extra stuff I probably won't use, i.e. the AFL DLC.

It means they eventually want to make you download the game to your system for 59.99. That way you can't trade it in on them.

# 59 jdr4693 @ 03/02/10 03:45 PM

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# 60 Valdarez @ 03/02/10 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Since they have started DLC, have they ever gave test codes away for free? I'm not trying to be a smartarse or nothing. I genuinely don't know. I don't usually pay attention to stuff like that. What I meant by my statement though, was I don't think they will be keeping something that was in 10 out of 11 so they can charge for it. Things like roster updates I figure would continue to be free.

As far as I know EA Sports is the only company charging for their test codes, and that's spanning all genres, not just sports. 2K Sports still give theirs away for free, at least for their latest NBA2K10 installment.

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