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Hip Checks Hurting NHL 12's Realism

11:50 AM - September 22, 2011 by RaychelSnr

I'm only a few days into NHL 12, and already the game's much-touted "Full Contact Physics Engine" is revealing itself to be glitchy, annoying and completely unrealistic.

The right-stick body checking isn't at blame. It's the retuned "instagib" hip check R3 button, which one-hit kills anyone who happens to graze the polyester on your player's jersey while he's -- or this year, she's -- treating opponents to a full moon.

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# 21 gopher_guy @ 09/22/11 03:32 PM

I'm sure this is something that can be tuned or patched.

Doesn't bother me at all since I am like an 80/20 offline/online guy.

# 22 Eski33 @ 09/22/11 04:11 PM

It is a game. Get over it.

# 23 Ryn Vintage1986 @ 09/22/11 04:17 PM

Hi, Eski.

You're on a forum discussing games on a gaming website.

Just a head's up.

# 24 GlennN @ 09/22/11 04:28 PM

As some other folks have mentioned, being an offline only guy, no big deal for me. The continued lack of accessible career stats, on the other hand . . .

# 25 jyoung @ 09/22/11 04:32 PM

This may be the first time this generation where EA NHL's offline experience is better than the online play.

Trying to play online as a Tough Guy/Grinder/Power Forward/Defensive Defenseman is totally worthless right now since their physical presence is undercut by everybody on the ice being able to hip check, regardless of their height, size, strength or checking attributes.

# 26 jerk @ 09/22/11 04:41 PM

This glitch really ruins online play. I've played 10 games online and it's been abused every single game. Haven't touched online since. I'm crossing my fingers that they'll be able go fix this via patch. I, like others believed they nailed the other "hitting" aspects of the game, this hip check really just ruins the efforts made in other parts of the gameplay.
If we could have hip checks like last years game, I'd be 1 happy camper.

# 27 Taku @ 09/22/11 04:51 PM

Quick fix:

Remove it, remap the control to be slashing for example. Game would be so much better without the hipcheck...

# 28 bukktown @ 09/22/11 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceteris Paribus


	Psst... It was always better. Online has been filled with douchebags for a long time.

Dbags > AI

# 29 The Bad Man @ 09/22/11 05:50 PM

im never impressed with the demo. and i seen this coming and now its really happening. oh well. ea sports its in the game. smh.

# 30 bukktown @ 09/22/11 05:52 PM

Hip checks aren't a big issue in 1v1. In 5v5 I can see it being an issue because the offense can drop 4 defenders at once with it and not get called for a penalty.

# 31 nancek00 @ 09/22/11 06:37 PM

I wouldn't disagree if they found a way to tone it down a bit, but by no means is it ruining my experience with the game. It's really most useful only against guys with absolutely no skill with the sticks. If you know how to skate, you can neutralize hip checks and even take advantage of the guys that do them too much. I have over 65 games played on the EASHL and I think it's a good tool. It's completely ineffective and even a liability against good skilled players. Have you ever noticed how hard it is to hip check a CPU skater? Yeah it's not "realistic," but it's not ruining anything for me.

# 32 AmongTheFearless @ 09/22/11 06:38 PM

NHL 2K, this is your chance... you can make your NHL game as good as if not better than your NBA game... Don't quit, get it together, regroup, and make an awesome video game. By the way, WTF is going on in that screenshot?!?

# 33 Scarbro73 @ 09/22/11 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHolliday


	To imply that this game has "physics" is pretty ballsy.

Exactly. There aren't "hitting physics" in this game at all! If you hit players from the front they sometimes fall FORWARDS! If you hit them from behind they sometimes fall backwards!

It's completely random people.

# 34 Bryzine21 @ 09/22/11 07:31 PM

Is this problem with hip checking on Xbox 360 too or just PS3?

# 35 jyoung @ 09/22/11 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryzine21


	Is this problem with hip checking on Xbox 360 too or just PS3?

The hip check isn't a system-specific issue. It's just a gameplay design decision EA made with NHL 12.

Given how they've tried to patch out gameplay imbalances in NHL 11, NHL 10, etc., I'm sure this is getting looking at by their gameplay team internally.

# 36 actionhank @ 09/22/11 09:13 PM

As much as i hate to say it, but NHL 12 is the first in the series since 08 that i have considered returning. It's not that it's terrible, it's just that it feels like there are the same problems as last year for me.
For all the improving in the world, it still takes a tuner set to get the game to even play semi-realistically, and despite the improved goalies, i'm still being plagued by just downright awful goals sometimes.
It's not any massive game-breaking problems, but it just feels like the NHL11 i got sick of playing with better checks (sometimes, not always) and a better sim mode in Be a GM (But some more of the same old bugs from before...).
Maybe i will wait and see how i feel when i get some more sliders tested.

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Originally Posted by flakeypastry @ 09/22/11 06:47 PM


	In be a pro i hip checked a guy without the puck and got an interference. Hip Check pissing you off? Don't use em in offline play, for online, suck it up buttercup

That's kind of ignorant to say. If we just tell everyone to fix game problems by "Getting over it" then EA will keep putting out the same bugged game with no reason to fix it.

# 37 puckhead73 @ 09/22/11 09:59 PM

It isn't ignorant to say suck it up. Yes we all know that it definitely needs adjusting, but we all also know full well that playing with people that you don't know online, in any game, be NHL, COD, any sort of online game, you are going to come across those that cheat, lie, abuse, and glitch what ever they can to win. More than anything i feel, it reflects more on the type of person the glitchers are than it does on EA.

I'm not an EA fanboy and am not trying to vindicate them from anything, because the hipcheck is broken. It is obvious that it needs revisiting. But sitting complaining about the people that abuse the system then say that it is all EA's fault, in my eyes is like the person that blames gun manufacturers for any murder commited with a gun. (Obviously not the same degree of severity, but it illustrates my point well.) Use it as intended, and more often then not, things work like they should. Misuse it, and it pisses people off.

Just my two cents.

# 38 afridgetofar @ 09/22/11 10:25 PM

link 3 happens in FIFA too. Some animations just don't have break points for collisions. At best they will just auto adjust back to the intended points. With link 3 it's like none of the animations are particularly prepared for death from above so the collision box just shoves dudes out of the wave. It looks extra stupid for the victim because there aren't any animations for falling 10 feet other than that default flailing.

# 39 stew514 @ 09/22/11 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by puckhead73


	It isn't ignorant to say suck it up. Yes we all know that it definitely needs adjusting, but we all also know full well that playing with people that you don't know online, in any game, be NHL, COD, any sort of online game, you are going to come across those that cheat, lie, abuse, and glitch what ever they can to win. More than anything i feel, it reflects more on the type of person the glitchers are than it does on EA. I'm not an EA fanboy and am not trying to vindicate them from anything, because the hipcheck is broken. It is obvious that it needs revisiting. But sitting complaining about the people that abuse the system then say that it is all EA's fault, in my eyes is like the person that blames gun manufacturers for any murder commited with a gun. (Obviously not the same degree of severity, but it illustrates my point well.) Use it as intended, and more often then not, things work like they should. Misuse it, and it pisses people off. Just my two cents.

There are exploits, like always goals and ******** animations. However the hip check essentially lets you have 99 checking without wasting a single point in strength, and no amount of balance can help you regardless of how slightly they brush you. I can't imagine the EA developers are looking at these highlights and going "well yeah that's how we envisioned it!!!"

# 40 savoie2006 @ 09/23/11 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AmongTheFearless


	NHL 2K, this is your chance... you can make your NHL game as good as if not better than your NBA game... Don't quit, get it together, regroup, and make an awesome video game. By the way, WTF is going on in that screenshot?!?

Not gonna happen my friend. They weren't making money even when the series was good, due to the cost of making a hockey game and EA sucks all the casual support from them., even back in the day. As much as I wish it would, the reality is the series is DEAD.

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