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First of all I wanna thank everyone who had a hand in this set that Knight has thanked before. Its been an honor to work with such a great set of editors. Also thanks to OS, in my opinion the greatest message board and sports gaming site on the web..bar none. Knight would have put this post up tonight had he not had an illness but lets be real... without him this set would not be possible...so cheers to you M.K!

Ok so whats included...

-corrections from ST version
-MLB lineups/rotations should be accurate as of opening day
-AAA lineups rotations as close as possible..minors cant be perfect due to lower level prospects
-transactions up to today
-updated transactions
-we tried to get as many requests from you guys in as possible

Again thanks to everyone and Enjoy!

Vault under PSN Ridindwnkingsley OSFM Opening day25 man roster version (Hustlinowl) http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpb5vu

V1.5 Also in the vault
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7ty9a4
-AAA and AA more accurate including career minor leaguers with mlb service time given service time..so no promotions and then rookie status
-tons of fixes to the original OD set
- transactions accurate to current day
- ratings tweaks to any Low rated scea player..no big stars most are low depth chart guys rated way off
- SCEA caps imported from roster updates only if a decent version...some appearances then tweaked (Darvish, Cespedes etc)
-25 man rosters
- remember this roster will be missing a chunk of the lower level prospects in order to add the AAA and AA guys

This is mainly for guys who like playing with accurate minor leagues

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# 541 RidinDwnKingsley @ 06/12/12 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by seanjeezy
Yikes, that's a pretty significant change. I'm all for having accurate AAA and AA rosters, but not if it means removing an organization's top prospects for some scrubs who at best might only get a cup of coffee.

Edit:

Cody Buckel is missing...

Jason Esposito, Nick Delmonico, Jose Campos, Ryan Brett, Yordano Ventura, etc. are all well regarded prospects and are missing...

I know it's impossible to get every player in, but using the Orioles as an example, Zach Booker (???) was included even though he hasn't even played this year and has a combined total of 6 games played since 2009... That's just odd to me. Speaking of Baltimore, Rich Rundles has never played for a Baltimore affiliate and he was put in the Class-A roster - Maybe replace Rundles and Booker with Esposito and Delmonico?

LOL...the purpose of these releases is as accurate as possible AAA and AA......not Top prospects in lower levels...sometimes when replacing a player its not just the potential that comes in play(example you need 2 catchers at each level otherwise I would replace most of the crappy D and F rated catchers with top prospects but that would in effect "break" the game)..but what do I know I only put hundreds of hours into this set .....use the set or dont...no ones forcing anyones hand...As a matter of fact I dont like alot of the variation sets out there...the pitch edits etc..BUT...I dont say a word..to each his own.....

PS Rundles is a guy with ML service time who was signed to play in AAA within the last 10 days ..hence he is in this set.

Thanks for your time
 
# 542 scotlandforever7 @ 06/12/12 11:57 PM
I am well aware of how dumb this sounds, but I have to ask...how do I download the roster?
 
# 543 seanjeezy @ 06/13/12 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RidinDwnKingsley
LOL...the purpose of these releases is as accurate as possible AAA and AA......not Top prospects in lower levels...sometimes when replacing a player its not just the potential that comes in play(example you need 2 catchers at each level otherwise I would replace most of the crappy D and F rated catchers with top prospects but that would in effect "break" the game)..but what do I know I only put hundreds of hours into this set .....use the set or dont...no ones forcing anyones hand...As a matter of fact I dont like alot of the variation sets out there...the pitch edits etc..BUT...I dont say a word..to each his own.....

PS Rundles is a guy with ML service time who was signed to play in AAA within the last 10 days ..hence he is in this set.

Thanks for your time
Then why not replace Matt Hobgood? Hasn't made it out of A Ball and is out for the year, perfect candidate for replacement.

I don't see how the "break the game" argument is even valid, since you aren't adding top prospects, your replacing them with AAA scrubs. Only Rymer Liriano had an A potential and deservedly so, he's a top 100 prospect. Donavan Tate would have been a better choice: Lower level, lower ceiling, older, etc.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that, so I'll leave it at that, but to say you don't like the pitch edits when one of the main complaints about the game is the lack of realistic repertoires is a head scratcher lol, especially since the Andy Pettitte and Jamie Moyer you used have my pitch edits
 
# 544 sfgiants28 @ 06/13/12 03:47 AM
Downloaded the rosters earlier today. Thanks for all the work you guys put into them.
 
# 545 RidinDwnKingsley @ 06/13/12 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by seanjeezy
Then why not replace Matt Hobgood? Hasn't made it out of A Ball and is out for the year, perfect candidate for replacement.

I don't see how the "break the game" argument is even valid, since you aren't adding top prospects, your replacing them with AAA scrubs. Only Rymer Liriano had an A potential and deservedly so, he's a top 100 prospect. Donavan Tate would have been a better choice: Lower level, lower ceiling, older, etc.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that, so I'll leave it at that, but to say you don't like the pitch edits when one of the main complaints about the game is the lack of realistic repertoires is a head scratcher lol, especially since the Andy Pettitte and Jamie Moyer you used have my pitch edits
Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.
 
# 546 Metsfan31 @ 06/13/12 09:03 AM
Anyone have a link? My network is down.
 
# 547 Hootiefish @ 06/13/12 09:07 AM
Guys stop fighting. You're scaring me.
 
# 548 crques @ 06/13/12 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RidinDwnKingsley
Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.
Ridin, just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your rosters and I'm not a fan of pitch edits across the board either. Therefore, the next time you want to do an update and upload it to the vault, think of it as being for those that appreciate your work. It is easy to pick at the minor league rosters whenever you are a fan of a specific team and see a player or two in question for that organization. However, thinking of these edits as a whole and realizing just how much work goes into this for every team, not just one, you should gain a whole new appreciation for the work that has been put into them.
 
# 549 seanjeezy @ 06/13/12 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RidinDwnKingsley
Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.
Seriously? Where am I "ripping" you? Just because I don't use those stupid smiley face things you think I'm slamming your work? I even offered possible replacement candidates that are a better fit, but I guess that isn't good enough.

Please, review the pitch edits set, I encourage it. How am I supposed to make it better if I don't know what needs to be fixed? There is a reason why we post our stuff here, community feedback is a big deal to me.

Really though, do you think I pulled all of the pitch data out of my a** or something? Or maybe you think pitch f/x isn't a valid system, I don't know, but how can you dispute something that is backed by statistical data? If the data exists, why not utilize it? Pitch f/x says the average fastball/changeup separation is around 6 MPH and the average slider breaks around 4.5 inches. Do you know what it was in OSFM? 10.46 MPH and 8 inches, not realistic in the slightest. Do you know how many players these global edits affected? 262/1210, all minor leaguers. The other 948 players had pitch f/x data available, no subjectivity involved, just hard facts. But by all means share your opinion, I would love to hear it since I am open to taking suggestions.
 
# 550 RidinDwnKingsley @ 06/13/12 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by seanjeezy
Seriously? Where am I "ripping" you? Just because I don't use those stupid smiley face things you think I'm slamming your work? I even offered possible replacement candidates that are a better fit, but I guess that isn't good enough.

Please, review the pitch edits set, I encourage it. How am I supposed to make it better if I don't know what needs to be fixed? There is a reason why we post our stuff here, community feedback is a big deal to me.

Really though, do you think I pulled all of the pitch data out of my a** or something? Or maybe you think pitch f/x isn't a valid system, I don't know, but how can you dispute something that is backed by statistical data? If the data exists, why not utilize it? Pitch f/x says the average fastball/changeup separation is around 6 MPH and the average slider breaks around 4.5 inches. Do you know what it was in OSFM? 10.46 MPH and 8 inches, not realistic in the slightest. Do you know how many players these global edits affected? 262/1210, all minor leaguers. The other 948 players had pitch f/x data available, no subjectivity involved, just hard facts. But by all means share your opinion, I would love to hear it since I am open to taking suggestions.
Dude since we were putting the original OSFM set together this year you have had complaints and criticisms of work done by many, as you said it "bothers" you Well your criticisms of others work on a consistent basis "bothers" me....if you dont like the work or the sets please dont use them....Im done now...thats my pitch fx statistical data for the night...Im out.
 
# 551 Side Effect @ 06/13/12 09:12 PM
I like your 1.5 rosters Ridin. I'm not really interested in the pitch edits either. I'm working off your May 9 update roster and applying V2 cosmetics edits and making an optimal, no injuries or DL roster.
 
# 552 UDBlueHen @ 06/13/12 09:25 PM
Hey Ridin i used your 6-11 roster to update starting pitchers first 6 like stamina etc. no pitch type edits or pitches changed. also i updated top 7 to 8 players or more everything started to blur while doing ALL teams Edits from the new roster update from mlb show from monday. and exported some rookies and players also to give realism. Thanks so much for your hard work. its the least i could do. again THANK YOU AND ALL WHO HELPED YOU. Roster Name: OSFM 6-11 Ridindwnkingsl Description: Pitch Edits/Player Edits. Thank you for your hard work again the least i could do to help you out.
 
# 553 seanjeezy @ 06/13/12 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RidinDwnKingsley
Dude since we were putting the original OSFM set together this year you have had complaints and criticisms of work done by many, as you said it "bothers" you Well your criticisms of others work on a consistent basis "bothers" me....if you dont like the work or the sets please dont use them....Im done now...thats my pitch fx statistical data for the night...Im out.
I still do not understand what the hostility is for. Am I not allowed to voice an opinion or am I limited to "Oh my gawd this is the greatest roster set evar"? As far as I know, the only two times I have spoken up about the OSFM set was with Rage and with you. We settled our discussion in a calmly matter (I think he said he had just came home from the bar or something lol), but for some reason you bring up my pitch edits, express your displeasure with it, and when I ask you to provide your own criticism you dodge.

Again, I probably respect your opinion a lot more than you do mine and that's fine. I thought being a contributor to this website and OSFM would be a cool thing to do, but I have no problem going back to just lurking. Thanks for providing such an awesome roster set Knight and Ridin, you guys do good work.
 
# 554 RidinDwnKingsley @ 06/13/12 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanjeezy
I still do not understand what the hostility is for. Am I not allowed to voice an opinion or am I limited to "Oh my gawd this is the greatest roster set evar"? As far as I know, the only two times I have spoken up about the OSFM set was with Rage and with you. We settled our discussion in a calmly matter (I think he said he had just came home from the bar or something lol), but for some reason you bring up my pitch edits, express your displeasure with it, and when I ask you to provide your own criticism you dodge.

Again, I probably respect your opinion a lot more than you do mine and that's fine. I thought being a contributor to this website and OSFM would be a cool thing to do, but I have no problem going back to just lurking. Thanks for providing such an awesome roster set Knight and Ridin, you guys do good work.
Read my post again...I dont care for massive pitch edits period...not just yours but anyones....just not for me....all I was saying earlier was if you dont like the players added for this "alt" set dont use it..its specifically made for accurate AAA..thats why some prospects are missing...my problem is you were "bothered" by it...so dont use it.,..I like many others ould critique any number of sets or alterations made to OSFM but its not my style..I respect others work..thats my point.....I respect your work as well....just not into putch edits thats it...good night, pleae let this go now its over.
 
# 555 NAFBUC @ 06/14/12 09:08 AM
Thanks RDK!! Appreciate all the time you and other OS members dedicate in making The Show the #1 sports game again this year.

 
# 556 Metsfan31 @ 06/14/12 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by metsfan31
Anyone have a link? My network is down.
Can anyone be kind enough to help me. It takes 2 seconds. Please.
 
# 557 The Yurpman @ 06/14/12 01:10 PM
Yes please, can somebody upload Ridin's new roster to an offline link?

Thank you!
 
# 558 Pacopete4 @ 06/14/12 02:57 PM
Seanjeezy, help me out please.


What are the best most realistic rosters to download right now that have all the players in A/AA/AAA and majors that also have the pitch edits that you speak of? I would love to try this out but I also want to make sure I have all the FA signings, the 40 man rosters, and all of my minor league players to go along with that.

So basically, when I go to roster vault, which should I download and use? And what sliders should I use? I would have private messaged you but I couldnt figure out how.


THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK EVERYONE DOES AROUND HERE!
 
# 559 rjackson17 @ 06/15/12 07:28 PM
Hey Ridin!! It does not matter whose complaining about your rosters!! You guys are not getting paid for doing the rosters!! So really who gives a flying F**k about it!! I know that it takes alot of time of doing them "Right"! You just have someone out there complains!! So there is a alot of us really like your rosters updates! I would keep on doing them know matter whose complaining!!
 
# 560 fearisya2 @ 06/19/12 07:44 AM
Can someone help me out??? Im a noob to all of this. Im trying to download this roster onto my PS3 to no avail. I downloaded it from os to my usb, but I cant get the ps3 to recognize any data on the usb. I read one post that said to create a savedata file then a ps3 file and unzip it into that. I did but it still didnt work. Getting frustrated, any help would be appreciated.
 


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