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Steph Curry had a heck of a night last night.

Not only did he score the most points in an OT effort ever (17), but he also single handedly took a playoff game over and delivered a big W for Golden State -- putting the Warriors up three games to one and certainly clinching their ticket onwards.

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"Perhaps the best way summarize Curry's performance on Monday is with this stat: Curry missed his first nine 3-pointers and later scored 17 points in overtime -- an NBA record."

Curry can catch fire like few players in the history of the game, and when he does -- it almost seems like he may actually encapsulate what it may look like to see a player with skills beyond what we typically see.

With that in mind, are Curry's attributes (especially his offensive attributes) properly captured in NBA 2K16? Do you think that Curry should be considered for something higher than a 99 overall rating?

Sound off in the comments!

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# 21 Bernte @ 05/10/16 03:39 PM
2k should implement a rating called "range". that and the 3point rating would determine how good a player shoots from way beyond the 3 point line. e.g. if you would have player with a 90+ 3 point rating, but only 50 in range. would basically mean that he is awesome from behind the arc, but his range is limited. curry would be a 99/99 player, so you could actually shoot with him from way beyond the 3 point line to mirror his real life performances.
 
# 22 haloofduty @ 05/10/16 03:52 PM
Why does so many players have limitless range? Shouldn't that just be Stephs badge? It would set him apart a little. I just gave myself a idea. I'm going to remove limitless range for all players but Steph. Maybe a few will get bronze.
 
# 23 Ray Vibes @ 05/10/16 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by haloofduty
Why does so many players have limitless range? Shouldn't that just be Stephs badge? It would set him apart a little. I just gave myself a idea. I'm going to remove limitless range for all players but Steph. Maybe a few will get bronze.
Gotta give that to Dame Lillard as well. Dude is a beast.
 
# 24 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 04:20 PM
Well if we are going by the legends scale and Curry just put up arguably the greatest season ever so....

I don't see how people think the legends scale helps there case in saying he shouldn't be.
 
# 25 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dice
Not at all. He's a legendary player, future HOFer and probably the best player in the league right now. But if 2K is sticking to it's policy of ratings, Curry is not in the conversation of thee best player of all time. Sorry.

Well hang on a second. There is a reason every Jordan isn't a 99. They rated him 99 for what they thought was his peak.

Curry just had one of the greatest seasons ever (maybe THE greatest ever).
 
# 26 tril @ 05/10/16 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernte
2k should implement a rating called "range". that and the 3point rating would determine how good a player shoots from way beyond the 3 point line. e.g. if you would have player with a 90+ 3 point rating, but only 50 in range. would basically mean that he is awesome from behind the arc, but his range is limited. curry would be a 99/99 player, so you could actually shoot with him from way beyond the 3 point line to mirror his real life performances.
thats a good idea. I figure thats what the hot and cold zones are for players.

personally I think the ratings are fine. I just feel that each attribute, especially with shooting should have a consistency slider attached to it.
so a player may get hot from mid range, but be cold from deep or up close. and if you tie defense into these consistency ratings through defensive adjustments, you could potentially have more organic hot and cold streaks.
 
# 27 cima @ 05/10/16 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Curry just had one of the greatest seasons ever (maybe THE greatest ever).
Did you just start watching basketball?
 
# 28 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cima
Did you just start watching basketball?
No you're right. There are so many people that have average 30 a game with a TS% over .660 or a 50/45/90 slash line with good defense and 5 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 2 steals per game.



Oh wait, it's just Steph Curry.
 
# 29 cima @ 05/10/16 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
No you're right. There are so many people that have average 30 a game with a TS% over .660 or a 50/45/90 slash line with good defense and 5 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 2 steals per game.



Oh wait, it's just Steph Curry.
I'm not saying it wasn't a great season, it was historically a top 10 season (PER backs this up). But LeBron/MJ/Wilt/etc. have all had better seasons.

And Curry's defense is vastly overrated. He's average on defense.
 
# 30 GradyMac @ 05/10/16 04:58 PM
A lot of people are confusing "best scorer" with "best player."

Curry is by far the best shooter and scorer; but nowhere near best defender or rebounder. He is a good passer, but not greatest.

So, no; he doesn't need an eleventh level.
 
# 31 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cima
I'm not saying it wasn't a great season, it was historically a top 10 season (PER backs this up). But LeBron/MJ/Wilt/etc. have all had better seasons.

And Curry's defense is vastly overrated. He's average on defense.
You're flat out wrong on all those statements and I'm not sure why you're using PER. It's kind of a useless stat.

Let me clarify, if you want to argue those players had historic seasons, then by all means. But to dismiss Curry and say he is't in the conversation is wrong. He is likely at the top of the conversation.

Also, a really good video on why Steph is actually a good defender (especially considering the load he has on offense). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsKCyNvnt7k&feature=youtu.be
 
# 32 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 05:00 PM
The problem is people just feel strong connections with their past and romanticize with them. It's where the "back in my day" stereotype comes from.

Because of that, Jordan, Wilt, and Oscar will always be untouchable.
 
# 33 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GradyMac
A lot of people are confusing "best scorer" with "best player."

Curry is by far the best shooter and scorer; but nowhere near best defender or rebounder. He is a good passer, but not greatest.

So, no; he doesn't need an eleventh level.

There is no perfect player.

And he's a good defender, rebounder for his size/position, and a really good ball handler/passer.
 
# 34 cima @ 05/10/16 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
You're flat out wrong on all those statements and I'm not sure why you're using PER. It's kind of a useless stat.

Let me clarify, if you want to argue those players had historic seasons, then by all means. But to dismiss Curry and say he is't in the conversation is wrong. He is likely at the top of the conversation.

Also, a really good video on why Steph is actually a good defender (especially considering the load he has on offense). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsKCyNvnt7k&feature=youtu.be
Curry is not at the top of the conversation. You're stuck in the "what have you done for me recently?" mentality.

MJ averaged 35/5.5/5.9 with 3 SPG on 53.5% shooting. Oh and did you know he averaged 35 PPG while only making 7 threes all year? Not enough for you? He also won Defensive Player of the Year.

And that's just one of his seasons. As stated earlier, LeBron and Wilt have had better seasons too. This Curry lovefest needs to stop, he is a great offensive player but he is only average on defense and you should know that if you need to pull a YouTube video out of your *** to try and make your argument, you're probably wrong. If he was a good defender, he would get proper recognition. But he hasn't because he's average and nowhere near an elite defender, unlike the aforementioned players.
 
# 35 SpeedyClaxton @ 05/10/16 05:14 PM
No & No, he's already enough overrated, just look at his speed and acc. All he needs to have in 2K17 is crazy long range and that's all, end of story.
 
# 36 tril @ 05/10/16 05:16 PM
the eye test tells me that Curry, this year, hands down is the best player. He's on another level-this year.
He's fluid on a daily basis. He's only had a handful of bad games this year.

He may not be Jordan, but he's having a Jordan type year.

every player has a chance of having that game where they are in th zone, But Curry this year has exceeded this,
he's definitely having a special year, and is worthy of a high rating
 
# 37 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cima
Curry is not at the top of the conversation. You're stuck in the "what have you done for me recently?" mentality.

MJ averaged 35/5.5/5.9 with 3 SPG on 53.5% shooting. Oh and did you know he averaged 35 PPG while only making 7 threes all year? Not enough for you? He also won Defensive Player of the Year.

And that's just one of his seasons. As stated earlier, LeBron and Wilt have had better seasons too. This Curry lovefest needs to stop, he is a great offensive player but he is only average on defense and you should know that if you need to pull a YouTube video out of your *** to try and make your argument, you're probably wrong. If he was a good defender, he would get proper recognition. But he hasn't because he's average and nowhere near an elite defender, unlike the aforementioned players.
And that was a fantastic season, but I'd argue Curry's was better. Also not sure how making only 7 threes a year somehow makes it a better season. Just just means he wasn't as efficient as Curry scoring the basketball.

Also, you're trying to argue that I have to pull out a YouTube video to show he's a video somehow makes me wrong? Or does that mean you aren't actually watching him play defense? Did you even watch it?

I never said he was elite. I said he's a good defender. Jordan was the better defender, but Curry's the better offensive player.

It took everyone a long time to realize Ricky Rubio is an elite defender and that Westbrook kind of sucks on defense actually.
 
# 38 Mbunn1993 @ 05/10/16 05:18 PM
I KNEW this thread was going to turn into another Steph Curry debate fest. We just had a 63 page long thread of people bitching back and forth over Curry finally end and now we're starting up a new one? Please god, make it stop.
 
# 39 Mauer4MVP @ 05/10/16 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tril
the eye test tells me that Curry, this year, hands down is the best player. He's on another level-this year.
He's fluid on a daily basis. He's only had a handful of bad games this year.

He may not be Jordan, but he's having a Jordan type year.

every player has a chance of having that game where they are in th zone, But Curry this year has exceeded this,
he's definitely having a special year, and is worthy of a high rating
This post is right on. No one is saying Curry is Jordan in terms of career. But Curry is at his peak right now and it is at the same level or above Jordan's peak year or other players like Wilt.
 
# 40 SpeedyClaxton @ 05/10/16 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Jordan was the better defender, but Curry's the better offensive player.
Pointless debate but Jordan era had handchecking rule, this era doesn't have that. Theoretically speaking do you ever wonder how would Curry score against those bully/aggresive defenders, or how would Jordan rate in today's 'everything's foul' era of basketball. Take that into account and don't look solely on numbers because numbers don't always tell the whole story.
 


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