Top 10 Players at Each Position in MLB The Show 17

[Godgers12]

And no Edwin Diaz? Definitely a top 10 closer based on last season.

[RLB]

And the rating wars begin.
I just don't put that much emphasis into the overall rating. I look at the attributes more than the overall plus you can usually pick up some decent talent during the season on a C or D potential player as well by looking at their attributes and save some budget along the way. Donaldson over Arenado, Arenado over Donaldson.......it's one point......I would gladly take either of them.

[Dolenz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Godgers12

Lets see him do something outside Coors then we can talk.

Just FYI. Arenado Hit for higher average, had more RBIS and the same number of Homeruns in away games when compared to Donaldson in his away games. This stuff is easy to look up by the way.

Maybe you want to come up with a better argument.

That said, it is a 1 point difference. Who knows what minor rating diference made one come out ahead of the other

[Dolenz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Godgers12

And no Edwin Diaz? Definitely a top 10 closer based on last season.

Limited sample size. I don't know what adjustments they make for players with less than three years but I understand that they can't have most players 2014 and 2015 stats account for 50% of their overall rating and have another guy leapfrog them based on one year.

If he continues then his rating will rise.

[Caulfield]

These are Donaldson and Arenado numbers away from home in 2016 adjusted to a 162 game season, courtesy Baseball Reference

Donaldson/Arenado
plate appearances-724/688 (this will be key later)

batting ave.-.272/.277
HR-33/32
doubles-24/24
basically a wash

where Donaldson separates himself from Arenado in road games
walks-116/60
obp-.394/.340
ops-.902/.832

but the bottom line of total bases is:
Donaldson-303
Arenado-302
all those walks and he still only outbases Arenado by one base and thats only in Donaldson favor because of the additional 36 plate appearances.
I submit that the reason Donaldson has better numbers than Arenado lies within their repective teammates; Donaldson sees better pitches on the Blue Jays because of his supporting cast as opposed to Arenado and his. Evidence IBB on the road in the aforementioned pro-rated stats:
Donaldson 2 IBB
Arenado 8 IBB
pitchers would rather face anybody but Arenado among him and his teammates, when Arenado come to town.
pitchers might as well just face Donaldson. And they do.

Toronto would be wise to pray the Yankees dont go after Arenado in 2020 if only because Yankee Stadium seems tailor made for Arenado. At which point Donaldson will be 34 in 2020 and his best days in his rearview mirror.
And while I'm on age, Arenado has been an every day player since he was 22. Donaldson was a late bloomer not becoming an everyday starter til he was 27. I believe its far more likely we see Arenado in Cooperstown over Donaldson.

All that said, I actually prefer Machado (though I'm biased because Machado a personal favorite of mine) over both Donaldson and Arenado.

But I would take still take Arenados defense play over Donaldson, Coors field or no, and its not even close.
maybe Donaldson should become a fulltime DH or maybe move to firstbase now that he's settling into his old age.

[D13]

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

Arenado is the best 3B in baseball right now. What a joke. Also, why is Rick Porcello not on this list? See this is why I can't take the list seriously.

Porcello hasn't produced worthy numbers the last 3 years. That's why.

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

That's very debatable and he is only 1 ovr back from the top. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Its not even close to debatable. KB is the reigning MVP and is farther up on the WAR board. KB is the best 3b in the game. No questions.

Quote: Originally Posted by BDrizz

Bryant isnt even the best 3B on his team. If he was, he wouldn't be splitting his time in the outfield.

Plz stop, lmao

Quote: Originally Posted by BDrizz

With Dahl hurt you don't see Arenado shagging balls in left...

Smh

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

Bryant is a better hitter and baserunner, Arenado is a better fielder. Bryant has accumulated more war over the past 2 seasons. He won mvp last year. How is he not a better 3B? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Agreed 100%

[Jaysguy44]

Quote: Originally Posted by Caulfield

These are Donaldson and Arenado numbers away from home in 2016 adjusted to a 162 game season, courtesy Baseball Reference Donaldson/Arenado plate appearances-724/688 (this will be key later) batting ave.-.272/.277 HR-33/32 doubles-24/24 basically a wash where Donaldson separates himself from Arenado in road games walks-116/60 obp-.394/.340 ops-.902/.832 but the bottom line of total bases is: Donaldson-303 Arenado-302 all those walks and he still only outbases Arenado by one base and thats only in Donaldson favor because of the additional 36 plate appearances. I submit that the reason Donaldson has better numbers than Arenado lies within their repective teammates; Donaldson sees better pitches on the Blue Jays because of his supporting cast as opposed to Arenado and his. Evidence IBB on the road in the aforementioned pro-rated stats: Donaldson 2 IBB Arenado 8 IBB pitchers would rather face anybody but Arenado among him and his teammates, when Arenado come to town. pitchers might as well just face Donaldson. And they do. Toronto would be wise to pray the Yankees dont go after Arenado in 2020 if only because Yankee Stadium seems tailor made for Arenado. At which point Donaldson will be 34 in 2020 and his best days in his rearview mirror. And while I'm on age, Arenado has been an every day player since he was 22. Donaldson was a late bloomer not becoming an everyday starter til he was 27. I believe its far more likely we see Arenado in Cooperstown over Donaldson. All that said, I actually prefer Machado (though I'm biased because Machado a personal favorite of mine) over both Donaldson and Arenado. But I would take still take Arenados defense play over Donaldson, Coors field or no, and its not even close. maybe Donaldson should become a fulltime DH or maybe move to firstbase now that he's settling into his old age.

Dude you made a good argument but you fail in choose who's better which is obviously Donalson . Machado is a little and did you watch the WBC game where Arenado blew it for the US with his bonehead throw to first?..no thank you..can't handle pressure...so yeah Donalson wins again as usual go Jays!!

[grgmths1433]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaysguy44

Dude you made a good argument but you fail in choose who's better which is obviously Donalson . Machado is a little vagina and did you watch the WBC game where Arenado blew it for the US with his bonehead throw to first?..no thank you..can't handle pressure...so yeah Donalson wins again as usual go Jays!!

That was a bad hop. He should've just held the ball.