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Therebelyell626 · 05-05-2020, 12:39 PM

One thing I would really like to see the development team do is re-evaluate breaking pitches for ‘21. Breaking pitches break way to late in my opinion. Sure, I know there are some guys that have “fall off the table” stuff, but for a majority of prospects and major league average guys their breaking balls are complimentary pieces. Too many times I will feel like I am perfect on a breaking ball only to come up slightly early or early. I will then go into replay and sure enough the ball is breaking waaaaaayyyyy to late or at weird times for a lot of pitches.

Some things I am noticing. Breaking balls up in the zone have way too much break on them as of right now. Pitches with lateral movement like sliders and cutters I understand. But balls that break vertically like curveballs, splitters, changes, and sinkers should be stiff as hell if put up in the zone. Likewise with breakers that move laterally when thrown down in the zone. I am still hitting pretty well this year, but I would really like pitch movement to be re-evaluated next year

reyes the roof · 05-05-2020, 01:22 PM

Curveballs down in the zone look really weird to me. The ball moves but it just kind of seems like I’m seeing an illusion and a ball that appears belt high ends up below the knees, I don’t see an actual break

yardimatt · 05-05-2020, 01:57 PM

The sliders from my RHP act more like a weak curve than they do a slider. My LHP throws a slider that slides a lot. I wonder if that’s just the way it is or if there’s an attribute in play here.

JoseJoseph9119 · 05-05-2020, 02:18 PM

The break seems to happen faster than the ball is actually moving. The pitch might be moving towards the plate at 80 mph, but it seems like it breaks at 90 mph towards its finishing point. The ball physically can't go sideways or down faster than it's going forward, but that's precisely what seems to happen

PirateFan · 05-05-2020, 06:20 PM

I thought my sight was going... curve balls have burst. A terrible pitcher with no fastball gives me trouble, but Noah Syndergaard I score 5 runs an inning off. I sit fastball all game. The curveballs I'm seeing are mostly out of the zone. The CPU has trouble with curveballs too.

MBMavs20 · 05-05-2020, 08:55 PM

The movement ratings on pitches are always too high. That's why I work on pitch edits every year. Try and make it more realistic.

When pitchers have Sliders with 80 and above movement it doesn't seem right.

shark547 · 05-06-2020, 04:02 AM

It has to be messed up because I never adjust. Every now and then I crush one...but, have no idea what I did different than all the other times....

Most of the time it seems like I have to swing at breaking pitches before they even start to break. It has never been like that before.

I especially love being late on 84 mph curveballs and sliders...like how the hell is that happening.....

05-05-2020, 12:39 PM	#1
Therebelyell626 MVP OVR: 0 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Los Angeles	Breaking pitches One thing I would really like to see the development team do is re-evaluate breaking pitches for ‘21. Breaking pitches break way to late in my opinion. Sure, I know there are some guys that have “fall off the table” stuff, but for a majority of prospects and major league average guys their breaking balls are complimentary pieces. Too many times I will feel like I am perfect on a breaking ball only to come up slightly early or early. I will then go into replay and sure enough the ball is breaking waaaaaayyyyy to late or at weird times for a lot of pitches. Some things I am noticing. Breaking balls up in the zone have way too much break on them as of right now. Pitches with lateral movement like sliders and cutters I understand. But balls that break vertically like curveballs, splitters, changes, and sinkers should be stiff as hell if put up in the zone. Likewise with breakers that move laterally when thrown down in the zone. I am still hitting pretty well this year, but I would really like pitch movement to be re-evaluated next year

05-05-2020, 01:22 PM	#2
reyes the roof Hall Of Fame OVR: 6 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas,TX	Re: Breaking pitches Curveballs down in the zone look really weird to me. The ball moves but it just kind of seems like I’m seeing an illusion and a ball that appears belt high ends up below the knees, I don’t see an actual break shark547, underdog13 and JoseJoseph9119 like this.

05-05-2020, 01:57 PM	#3
yardimatt Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Apr 2020	Re: Breaking pitches The sliders from my RHP act more like a weak curve than they do a slider. My LHP throws a slider that slides a lot. I wonder if that’s just the way it is or if there’s an attribute in play here. Caulfield likes this.

05-05-2020, 02:18 PM	#4
JoseJoseph9119 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Mar 2018	Re: Breaking pitches The break seems to happen faster than the ball is actually moving. The pitch might be moving towards the plate at 80 mph, but it seems like it breaks at 90 mph towards its finishing point. The ball physically can't go sideways or down faster than it's going forward, but that's precisely what seems to happen shark547 likes this.

05-05-2020, 06:20 PM	#5
PirateFan Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: May 2020	Re: Breaking pitches I thought my sight was going... curve balls have burst. A terrible pitcher with no fastball gives me trouble, but Noah Syndergaard I score 5 runs an inning off. I sit fastball all game. The curveballs I'm seeing are mostly out of the zone. The CPU has trouble with curveballs too. shark547 likes this.

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05-05-2020, 08:55 PM	#6
MBMavs20 Pro OVR: 6 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas Blog Entries: 1	Re: Breaking pitches The movement ratings on pitches are always too high. That's why I work on pitch edits every year. Try and make it more realistic. When pitchers have Sliders with 80 and above movement it doesn't seem right. shark547 and Caulfield like this.

05-06-2020, 04:02 AM	#7
shark547 Pro OVR: 0 Join Date: Jun 2014	Re: Breaking pitches It has to be messed up because I never adjust. Every now and then I crush one...but, have no idea what I did different than all the other times.... Most of the time it seems like I have to swing at breaking pitches before they even start to break. It has never been like that before. I especially love being late on 84 mph curveballs and sliders...like how the hell is that happening..... JoseJoseph9119 likes this.