Phil Frazier Says No 3rd Patch or DLC For Madden 09

[Danimal]

Quote: Originally Posted by rudyjuly2

It was a good idea and you hit the nail on the head with the nature of this community. You simply can't promise things or even strongly suggest things when you can't deliver. It makes it ugly. There is little doubt in my mind that the free DLC was blocked by Sony and MS as they viewed it as what it was - a free third patch. EA was able to develop the DLC and I'm sure they had it ready to be implemented which is why I'm sure Ian and Phil are pissed they couldn't deliver it. But they should have gotten approval for this before it was even mentioned. Even us grown ups have little kid tendencies whose hopes were unnecessarily raised and then wrecked. It would be nice to get some further explanation though.

I wasn't going to post again in this thread but this post deserves comment.

First some of us are not mad about the lack of DLC, but the simple fact this was strung along as long as it was. If you believe last week was when the call was made then that is your choice, I'll based my feelings on past history. They knew about the lack of CPU sliders for weeks and would of let if go until after launch if someone hadn't gotten a press copy and let it out, I heard that same someone got blacklisted by EA btw.

Also what proof do you have the Sony or MS blocked this? What makes you think they Ian and Phil pissed off? I see nothing in Phil's message to indicated that, in fact his answer was terse at best.

Drop the news, don't give any indication as to why and disappear, sooner or later most people won't even remember it. This whole thing was handle in a poor manner and they haven't done anything to prove to me they are honest guys and that is why some of us are annoyed.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by TJdaSportsGuy

Seriously, lol. I've asked like 3 times now. WHERE are you guys getting this 2-free patches thing? Someone show me a damn link, please!

This was mentioned by a developer on here.

I believe it was one of the NCAA developers.

[asu666]

This news is fine by me. I buy what is on the disc and that was clearly broken and lacking this year.

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by DSpezzano

Also what proof do you have the Sony or MS blocked this? What makes you think they Ian and Phil pissed off? I see nothing in Phil's message to indicated that, in fact his answer was terse at best.

Pure and utter speculation on my part.

[PaulZweber]

If it was MS/Sony's fault, they would have mentioned it. This is not suprising and the ongoing trend with this company. The Devs have no confidence or trust from me, ongoing shortcomings and unrealized expectations have driven me further and further away from this game. Two of my "Online Leagues" have shut down due to not being able to replace owners, and this game gets no playtime with fun games releasing all the time.

[GTheorenHobbes]

Quote: Originally Posted by TJdaSportsGuy

Seriously, lol. I've asked like 3 times now. WHERE are you guys getting this 2-free patches thing? Someone show me a damn link, please!

Here ya go, dude. Straight out of Phil's mouth:

Quote:
Originally Posted by rudyjuly2

"So its possible that MS will only let you patch NCAA once for free but twice for Madden? Does the number of games sold affect their decision? Any confirmation on this stuff would be great."

Answer:
"Yes this is very possible. All I know is Madden gets two. I'm not sure what logic MS and EA Corporate used to determine how many each game gets. All that stuff is handled during high-level negotiations with MS when EA signs on to be a developer for their platform.

Phil"

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...8-100-a-4.html

Here's a related link/post from Phil:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...8-100-a-3.html

[GTheorenHobbes]

Quote: Originally Posted by DSpezzano

Drop the news, don't give any indication as to why and disappear, sooner or later most people won't even remember it.

Exactly. They're counting on the fact that this will all blow over in a week or so, and will be all but forgotten except by a few of us complainers by the time the hype machine gets cranking for next year's game. Their "who cares" attitude really rubs me the wrong way.

[PlatinumJuice]

I'm so glad I came to this site when i was thinking of buying the game... although every site gave it high ratings (unfortunately)... with no more dlc and after listening to the input of everyone here on how terrible the game is, i am overjoyed that I didn't waste my money on this garbage... EA is concerned about one thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$