NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

[2_headedmonster]

D'Angelo Russell a 77...on a HOF scale?

[MGSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster

D'Angelo Russell a 77...on a HOF scale?

He's getting that Lakers bump.

Watch Delly get signed to L.A and become an 82 overall.

[Real2KInsider]

I'll try to post before work in the morning (another full-day tomorrow), sleep is calling me at present.

[MGSW]

I just looked it up and to my surprise Wroten's wingspan is 6'9. D.Rose has a wingspan of 6'8.

So despite being taller the wingspan isn't that much different. So in terms of size defensively (wingspan matters more than height), it's not that big of a gap.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by MGSW

I completely understand what you're saying but Wroten only played something like 30 games. That's a really small sample size in the grand scheme of things. His averages over 30 games shouldn't be comparable to the per game averages of a guy who played 20+ more games than he did. Rose when he was healthy is beyond what Wroten could even dream of being. Now? Sure since his athleticism took a knock it's different. But to compare them after wroten had one decent season on a very bad team? Come on man.

They're both players with mediocre to poor performances-- and the fact that Rose has a larger sample size than Wroten should actually cause his rating to drop significantly.

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Also you have to look at all the numbers. Rose held opposing PGs to an average PER of 14 ( Wroten held opposing PGs to an average PER of 19 (>NBA average). An eFG% of 54% and forced 4 turnovers per game. Philly were actually better defensively when Wroten was on the bench. They gave up 111 points per 100 possessions with Wroten on the floor. They gave up 104 points when Wroten was on the bench. With Rose, the Bulls gave up 105 points per 100 possessions with Rose on the floor and 106 with him on the bench. Rose was a plus defender last year, Wroten wasn't. With Wroten on the floor Philly allowed more assisted field goals, a higher eFG% and turned the ball over more on offense. Wroten had a DRtg of 106.6 while Rose was 105.1 so Rose was in the top 40 out of all players (playing > 24mpg). And Wroten was in the top 150 (he was about 148th) And when you compare the offense you have to remember 44% of Wroten's made baskets were assisted on. Compared to 35% of D.Rose. Rose is clearly better at creating for himself. Again. Small sample sizes so I don't take too much from it. But I think it's still to early to compare them properly.

Now you make a pretty good case that Wroten shouldn't be rated anything beyond kind-of-pretty-bad for a PG. But the same should apply to Rose. He should rank around the high 70's to 80 at best due to his performance after his injury-- but has instead been insulated from drops and excused BY his injury coming onto... the third 2K release now?

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by HowDareI

It's called an opinion, and to be honest I don't care about some random nobody "taking me serious". Go look up their stats; identical. So I can compare them all I want. All day, every day, any time, any where. So when I say they have identical stats but Wroten's taller and more athletic, I can then say I'd rather have him....and he's much younger. There's no way Rose has the rating he has right now, there's plenty of guards (realistically) better than him. Wroten shouldn't be higher but he shouldn't be 9 points lower if they have the same stats, right? Okay.

Tony Wroten more athletic than Rose? Lol okay.

[Hopsin]

What's wrong with this forum? Why is Wroten even mentioned in the same breath as anyone other than maybe MCW..

[MGSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

They're both players with mediocre to poor performances-- and the fact that Rose has a larger sample size than Wroten should actually cause his rating to drop significantly.

I disagree. It's easier to average say 16 and 5 over 10 games than it is over 30. Easier to average over 30 than it is over 50.

The more games you play the more fatigue you accrue and the more likely you are to have bad games that bring your averages down. Also since its such a small sample size we should probably take a look at who the opponents were and what level of defense they were playing against. I'm betting against top flight defensive teams like GSW, Memphis and Milwaukee, Rose out performed Wroten.

Sustaining an average of 18 and 5 over 50 games is more difficult than sustaining an average of 17 and 5 over 30 games.


Regardless, the smaller the sample size the less you have to work with.