NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

[MGSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hopsin

Tony Wroten more athletic than Rose? Lol okay.

Pre injury, that statement would be outlandish. Rose was arguably the most athletic point guard in the league (only other arguments you could make were for Westbrook and Wall).

But post injury? His athleticism took a massive hit. It's not a stretch to say he's on par with Wroten. I don't think his athleticism will ever return to what it was.

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by MGSW

Pre injury, that statement would be outlandish. Rose was arguably the most athletic point guard in the league (only other arguments you could make were for Westbrook and Wall). But post injury? His athleticism took a massive hit. It's not a stretch to say he's on par with Wroten. I don't think his athleticism will ever return to what it was.

I watched every bulls game last year, I can say his athleticism is still there, now did he use it as much as in the past no. Not at all, but that stems from not playing so long and honestly being tentative.
I guess you could take his rust + tentativeness as saying it took a huge blow, but I know it's there and I honestly believe only wall and westbrooke are more athletic. As far as PGs

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by MGSW

I disagree. It's easier to average say 16 and 5 over 10 games than it is over 30. Easier to average over 30 than it is over 50. The more games you play the more fatigue you accrue and the more likely you are to have bad games that bring your averages down. Also since its such a small sample size we should probably take a look at who the opponents were and what level of defense they were playing against. I'm betting against top flight defensive teams like GSW, Memphis and Milwaukee, Rose out performed Wroten. Sustaining an average of 18 and 5 over 50 games is more difficult than sustaining an average of 17 and 5 over 30 games. Regardless, the smaller the sample size the less you have to work with.

What I'm saying is there's a very high sample set of Rose playing poorly that justifies knocking Rose down significantly without any relation to Wroten.


Wroten also happens to be pretty medicore as well.

[YaBoial]

U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions

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[MGSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hopsin

I watched every bulls game last year, I can say his athleticism is still there, now did he use it as much as in the past no. Not at all, but that stems from not playing so long and honestly being tentative. I guess you could take his rust + tentativeness as saying it took a huge blow, but I know it's there and I honestly believe only wall and westbrooke are more athletic. As far as PGs

You're entitled to believe whatever you want but there's no evidence to back it up.

I would LOVE to see Rose return to his former level of athleticism. But those injuries have long term repercussions and so far there's no evidence of this happening.

Fact is, right now. They're comparable athletically.

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by MGSW

You're entitled to believe whatever you want but there's no evidence to back it up. I would LOVE to see Rose return to his former level of athleticism. But those injuries have long term repercussions and so far there's no evidence of this happening. Fact is, right now. They're comparable athletically.

There's technically no evidence to prove otherwise, but agree to disagree.

I don't really see the comparisons honestly he's a poor mans drose. Put the stats aside, he doesn't have any of the intangibles Rose has. You don't game plan for Wroten as you would Rose. Wroten doesn't strike fear into the defense as Rose does. You don't have to worry about him taking over a game or having a huge night.. (Maybe a la mo Williams). It's just crazy how people can actually compare the two.
(That wasn't directed towards you MGSW, just at the argument period).

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by YaBoial

U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions Sent from my LIFE PURE MINI using Tapatalk

Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.

[MGSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hopsin

Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.

How you feeling about Fred? He loves the long range shooting. You think that suits the roster?