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# 41 Russell_SCEA @ 03/26/14 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Curahee
Can you explain this? How is it intended to work?

If a 3-2 count produces 5 pitches and the 6th is put into play, then shouldn't the following 2-1 count make the pitch count 9?
It's simple to keep the counts near realistic values we subtract 1 pitch per batter and two pitches on 3-2 counts. Otherwise your looking at SP hitting 130 in the 6th inning.
 
# 42 HustlinOwl @ 03/26/14 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Curahee
OK, I hear you. But theres nothing we can do about the game being released in April. It is what it is.

The issue at hand is the pitch count of QC. Thats something we can solve now.
3-2 Count on Holliday should be at 17 pitches and only counting as 15??? Balls hit into the play of field are not being counted?
 
# 43 ShowTyme15 @ 03/26/14 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl
3-2 Count on Holliday should be at 17 pitches and only counting as 15??? Balls hit into the play of field are not being counted?
Look above you
 
# 44 MrOldboy @ 03/26/14 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA
It's simple to keep the counts near realistic values we subtract 1 pitch per batter and two pitches on 3-2 counts. Otherwise your looking at SP hitting 130 in the 6th inning.
Wait, really? That is really surprising to hear.

Edit: I just realized that I guess it may be the easiest way to handle it since there are no early counts. Every QC adds a lot of pitches, no chance to get a 1-pitch out.
 
# 45 Grnngld @ 03/26/14 09:31 PM
I'm guessing this is because quick counts don't generate 0-0 counts so that's where the inflation comes frome. In real life, players do make first pitch outs.
 
# 46 HustlinOwl @ 03/26/14 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowTyme15
Look above you
typing as he posted thanks
 
# 47 Knight165 @ 03/26/14 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Grnngld
I'm guessing this is because quick counts don't generate 0-0 counts so that's where the inflation comes frome. In real life, players do make first pitch outs.
Yep....that's my guess as well.
I know people will say it's unrealistic to discount pitches...but as Grenngld stated.....we are missing out on some first pitch outs.
It's probably not as many as as getting discounted...but I guess there has to be some concessions.

Plus.....as long as the pitcher fatigue matches the pitch count displayed...that's what really matters.

A bit odd....but so are gen counts!

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 48 OUSOONERS#1 @ 03/26/14 09:45 PM
Wow so the pitch count shown in actuality is not the case plus commentary doesn't line up with the at bat either hmm ... Will the pitch count be the real pitch count in regular mode ?
 
# 49 HustlinOwl @ 03/26/14 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OUSOONERS#1
Wow so the pitch count shown in actuality is not the case plus commentary doesn't line up with the at bat either hmm ... Will the pitch count be the real pitch count in regular mode ?
I would sure hope so
 
# 50 MrOldboy @ 03/26/14 09:47 PM
I'd have to hear the commentary more, but how off is it? I didn't really pay attention to it watching the video.
 
# 51 cubby blue @ 03/26/14 09:48 PM
Is anybody else watching this over and over? lol I just can't get over how good and smooth this games looks.
I can't imagine how it's going to look on the ps4.
 
# 52 Curahee @ 03/26/14 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA
No issue it's working as intended.
It's simple to keep the counts near realistic values we subtract 1 pitch per batter and two pitches on 3-2 counts. Otherwise your looking at SP hitting 130 in the 6th inning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrOldboy
Edit: I just realized that I guess it may be the easiest way to handle it since there are no early counts. Every QC adds a lot of pitches, no chance to get a 1-pitch out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnngld
I'm guessing this is because quick counts don't generate 0-0 counts so that's where the inflation comes frome. In real life, players do make first pitch outs.
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Originally Posted by Knight165
Yep....that's my guess as well.
I know people will say it's unrealistic to discount pitches...but as Grenngld stated.....we are missing out on some first pitch outs.
It's probably not as many as as getting discounted...but I guess there has to be some concessions.

Plus.....as long as the pitcher fatigue matches the pitch count displayed...that's what really matters.
Thanks everyone for the answers and clarification!



 
# 53 HustlinOwl @ 03/26/14 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA
It's simple to keep the counts near realistic values we subtract 1 pitch per batter and two pitches on 3-2 counts. Otherwise your looking at SP hitting 130 in the 6th inning.
???Then why is Carpenter first AB at 5 pitches in a 3-2 count, ball hit into play is 6 pitches and Peralta stepping in at 2-1 is 9, so the 8 pitches minus 1 per batter makes sense there.
 
# 54 OUSOONERS#1 @ 03/26/14 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrOldboy
I'd have to hear the commentary more, but how off is it? I didn't really pay attention to it watching the video.
There jus wasn't any commentary added for the qc being implemented ..
 
# 55 Russell_SCEA @ 03/26/14 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight165
Yep....that's my guess as well.
I know people will say it's unrealistic to discount pitches...but as Grenngld stated.....we are missing out on some first pitch outs.
It's probably not as many as as getting discounted...but I guess there has to be some concessions.

Plus.....as long as the pitcher fatigue matches the pitch count displayed...that's what really matters.

A bit odd....but so are gen counts!

M.K.
Knight165

Double bingo. The pitchers will hit their normal fatigue level for the stamina rating per player. In essence guys will hit the normal I/GS more often than not with QC.
 
# 56 MrOldboy @ 03/26/14 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl
???Then why is Carpenter first AB at 5 pitches in a 3-2 count, ball hit into play is 6 pitches and Peralta stepping in at 2-1 is 9, so the 8 pitches minus 1 per batter makes sense there.
I'm guessing they subtract it from the total pitch count when an at bat starts, then the QC adds to that? Nothing to subtract from on the first AB maybe.

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Originally Posted by OUSOONERS#1
There jus wasn't any commentary added for the qc being implemented ..
Wait, so its that they never mention the count at all? I'm trying to watch the video again and figure out the issue.
 
# 57 Russell_SCEA @ 03/26/14 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OUSOONERS#1
Wow so the pitch count shown in actuality is not the case plus commentary doesn't line up with the at bat either hmm ... Will the pitch count be the real pitch count in regular mode ?
I'll let you take a wild guess here
 
# 58 Knight165 @ 03/26/14 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl
???Then why is Carpenter first AB at 5 pitches in a 3-2 count
It's not counting the RESULT pitch....
So you'll be losing 27 per pitcher(s)(TEAM)...per game.

Think of it this way....if a pitcher(team) threw 3 or 4 first pitch outs(which you cannot get with QC's.....) in a game(IRL).....that in QC games resulted in 5+ pitch AB's(not unheard of with foul balls and such)...that's possibly a minimum of 15-20 pitches and possibly much more.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 59 HustlinOwl @ 03/26/14 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrOldboy
I'm guessing the subtract it from the total pitch count when an at bat starts, but you're right they are counting extra pitches in the first at bat.



Wait, so its that they never mention the count at all? I'm trying to watch the video again and figure out the issue.
lol Im not the best at math, but with Holliday stepping in after Peralta K at 11 pitches he steps in at 15 pitches on 3-2 count, so wouldnt this be 14?
 
# 60 OUSOONERS#1 @ 03/26/14 09:57 PM
Love this game and the developers of it that being said can not wait till another company produces another baseball game .. Competition is good for all parties.. I can remember where I bought three baseball games the same year cause each one had something the other didn't ...
 


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