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No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 (Interview)


It’s official: EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, and Live the Life will not be in NHL 15.

The modes which will be in the game, will include play now, Be A Pro, Be a GM, Online Vs, Hockey Ultimate Team, and NHL Moments Live. The plan, as of right now, is to deliver Online Team Play via a patch after launch.

We sat down with Producer Sean Ramjagsingh to discuss why those modes were not included and to talk about the modes which are in the game. The discussion also turns to how to the team deals with community reactions and plans for the future of the franchise, which admittedly are quite exciting. See for yourself after the jump!

Update: After realizing we had no quotes from Sean on GM Connected we reached out to EA for a comment. Here is an official response from EA on why it was excluded: "GM Connected was one of our lowest played modes. We’ll be looking to see how we can bring a better online GM experience to the franchise in future iterations"

Operation Sports: Tell us about what modes are in NHL 15 and why users should be excited about them. What's new with modes shipping in NHL 15 for XB1 and PS4?

Sean Ramjagsingh: First of all with the move to the new console for us,  it was about creating a great gameplay and presentation experience. Really it was about getting into that space and settings us up with a foundation for development on this generation of consoles. What we’ve done with gameplay and presentation this year, we are very, very, proud of.

We truly changed the gameplay experience and have delivered a brand new presentation. With the modes themselves, we are offering a suite of modes which will offer different ways to play our game on Gen-4.

We have Be a GM, Be a Pro, Online Versus, Hockey Ultimate Team and NHL Moments Live, which is a scenario mode where we will continuously update with moments from the real world.

OS: With five modes failing to make the transition to next-gen (Live the Life, NHL 94, OTP, EASHL, GM Connected), do you think the enhanced visuals and gameplay of NHL 15 are enough of a reason to justify users buying the next-gen version?

SR:  The big one which most people have been asking about is about OTP and EASHL. The reality there is, we had to start with the core and we had to get the online up and running. The team has been pushing as hard as we can to get OTP in for launch.

As of today, which is our beta date looking to get the game in the package-goods product for consumers to pick up on the first day, we had to make the decision that OTP will not be in the game for launch. It was a very tough decision for us. Obviously we recognize that OTP and EASHL are huge modes for us. Our fans, our community are very invested in those modes, so it was a very tough decision and tough day for us. But the reality is, its not going to get there for launch.

We are however, committed to releasing post-launch patches like you’ve seen in EA Sports UFC — where we continue to update content and get OTP in as part of one of the patches we release post launch.

OS: What would be the timeline for the OTP patch?

SR: We’ve been pushing hard to get OTP. So if you would’ve asked me last month, I would’ve told you our goal was to get OTP in at launch. It’s a very complex mode. You have, at any one time, up to 12 user controlled players playing the game at the same time from different screen perspectives.

To be completely transparent, with screen perspectives it’s not overly complex. The complexities come within the gameplay itself, and coordinating the 12 user controlled players in their different living rooms. Balancing with the servers to make sure there’s no glitches. The gameplay, which is different because its all user controlled, is very tight.

So we’re pushing as fast as we can. I can’t commit to an exact date right now, but what I can tell you right now is that we are committed to being transparent around the development of OTP. As we make progress with OTP we’ll be speaking to fans and the community about that.

OS: What development challenges led to the removal of key modes? How long ago was the decision made to remove these features?

SR: If you go back a little bit, we weren’t there for the first year of the new consoles. The team was focused on delivering the best possible experience we could, really maxing it out on Gen-3 (PS3/360) with NHL 14. The reality is that we had 12 months to develop NHL 15 itself.

Again, we started with the core. We started with the gameplay and the presentation to ensure we truly innovated in that space and took our game to another level and setting us up for the future.

The next part about developing on the new consoles for us was that it was exciting with new opportunities to discover new things. As you overcome new development hurdles you would unlock new things you could do, so we had to make design decisions on the fly. The downside of that is because of some of the roadblocks you hit developing on the new consoles, despite learning from other games within EA Sports, bringing our codebase over and trying to rebuild it to set it up for the future had its own set of challenges.

As we hit each one of those challenges, to be honest, they were just very time consuming to overcome. They sucked up a lot of our resources, so there were just some significant challenges there on the development part of it. As we hit those challenges and tried to overcome them, it just minimized the time we had to devote to other modes in NHL 15.

OS: Are steps being taken to prevent this kind of scenario next year? What steps are being taken to ensure all of the modes from Gen-3 are in next year’s NHL?

SR: When we kicked off NHL 15, we literally had nothing up and running. So it was about taking eight years of development on the previous generation of consoles and bringing the best parts over to the new generation. So just getting the game up and running was a challenge in NHL 15, as it was on all of the sports titles on the new consoles.

The different next year is that we will have a game foundation set up and running that we are extremely proud. We set it up from a tech perspective so that we can deliver bigger and better things in our modes, gameplay and presentation in the future. We’re set up very well for the future and we have a game that is up and running that we can continue to build on. The most exciting thing for us is that we’ve overcome the hurdle of getting a quality game up and running.

Yes we acknowledge we’ve lost some of the depth we had with OTP and EASHL, however we are very excited about the foundation we’ve built. With the gameplay, presentation, and the modes and what we can do with the modes going forward and specifically what we can do with OTP and EASHL which I know our fans are very passionate about.

OS: What does the dev team think of all of the feedback this omission has gotten and will be getting? I assume the feedback is being heard.

SR: With social media and two-way communication, the NHL franchise and myself take pride in communicating with our fans and having that one to one communication. So yes, I have seen the negativity around the rumors about whether EASHL was going to be in the game or not. For us, I understand it, I understand the confusion. We didn’t want to create more confusion by putting out a message without all of the information until literally today, when we made the final call on whether OTP or EASHL are going to be in the game.

Announcing anything earlier than today would have created more questions than solving answers for us. It’s tough to see all of the speculation and not be able to reply to it, but the team here has been really focused on pushing forward and delivering as much as we possibly could for launch and for the patches coming for NHL 15.

OS: What would you say to the folks who've enjoyed the team and co-op aspects of the NHL series at this point? What do they have to look forward to, considering all of the time and effort they've dedicated to team and online modes in the past 5+ years?

SR: First and foremost, once they get their hands on the demo and start experiencing the gameplay, it’s a truly different experience. We tried to innovate and rebuild our gameplay and presentation from the ground up and the core to EASHL and OTP is a great gameplay experience. So first and foremost, I think our fans will appreciate the great gameplay.

What they have to look forward to is leveraging that foundation we’ve built on the technical side to allow us to do bigger and better things. I’m committed to EASHL, the franchise is committed to EASHL. Our goal is not to just bring over the EASHL you knew from Gen-3, but to do it bigger and better. We want to engage the community and get their feedback, and have them help build that experience with us.

OS: What about the modes in the game, what is Be-a-Pro bringing to the table?

SR: In Be-A-Pro, you’ll be able to play with a character in BAP, play in the NHL. It’ll be the same as before, the depth is there. With regards to setting us up for the future, the one piece that is not there is the Life the Life piece. Looking at the bar being set by other sports games, and us wanting to set ourselves up for the future and be better with all of our modes, so Live the Life is not there this year.

As a development team, we’re going to go back, and create a new strategy for creating a bigger and better Be-A-Pro experience.

OS: What about Be-A-GM?

SR: In Be-A-GM, you have the opportunity to control your own franchise and guide them to a Stanley Cup. All of the basics of the mode are there: there’s free agency, trading, and the rookie draft. You can play up to 25 seasons as well. The core of that mode is there.

We’re continuing as part of our updates to bring back some of that depth in different ways. We’ll have more details on what the patch plans for Be-A-GM specifically at a later date. The goal was to create a solid foundation to continue to build upon and to bring back things our fans have been asking for which we haven’t been able to in the past because of other technical limitations we’ve had.

OS: How much work went into the current-gen version of NHL 15? Why should someone buy the current-gen version? What is being added?

SR: The full suite of modes from last year’s PS3/Xbox 360 version of NHL are in NHL 15 on the same consoles. We’ve added some multiplayer physics to the game while changing the gameplay experience by taking some of what we did from the new consoles. We obviously couldn’t do everything because of the difference of the power of the consoles.

One of the requests fans have had for years is replacing the commentators, our new commentary team (Mike "Doc" Emrick and Eddie Olczyk) is also present in the PS3 and 360 versions of NHL 15.

OS: With how everything has really gone down on social media, is there anything you would like to do different in communicating with fans?

SR: We were pushing as hard as we could for as long as we could to get OTP and EASHL in the game. And today is the day we kind of had to make the final decision. The team was driving as hard as they could to get as much in as possible for launch.

It’s tough because we pride ourselves in that two-way communication but the community doesn’t have that visibility to see what we’re doing day in and day out. They don’t see how we’re pushing, the late nights we’re putting in to get as much in as possible. It’s really about delivering a clear message when we communicate with our fans, and communicating anything before today would have probably led to more questions than answers.

That’s why today is so important to us, we officially made the decision on what will be in there at launch. Now that we have the information and want to make sure we answer those questions with the right amount of information.

OS: Last question, what is the one thing fans should be truly excited about with NHL 15?

SR: We’re extremely proud of the package we’re delivering this year. It’s a truly next-gen experience when you start with our gameplay. With what we’ve done with the next-gen player models and characters, being built from the ground up, having cloth on the players for the first time, the brand new A.I. system which will really be a foundation for our A.I. system moving forward.

We’ve rebuilt our gameplay from the ground up, with our new multi-player and puck physics.  What you see on TV is what you’re going to see in our game, with brand new commentators done in a way you’ve never seen in a sports game before — we’re actually taking the real commentators and putting them in the game.  We’re trying to innovate with everything that we do.

We’re trying to set the bar with our visuals, with over 9000 new crowd models. You’ll see the home team fans, the away team fans, the super fans, the vendors. We really brought the arena to life and captured every detail. The backend experience is really second to none, we’re extremely proud of that.

On the game modes side of things, we’re bringing over the key modes in a way that sets us up for the future. The tech is set up now to do things in a bigger and better way. We’re in the process of building OTP right now, which we’re going to be transparent about, and OTP is basically the foundation of the EASHL experience. So that foundation is there for us to deliver an EASHL experience that is bigger and better than anything anyone could have imagined when we originally did the mode in NHL 09.

The future is bright. With NHL 15, we’re extremely proud of the package we’re delivering this year. It truly is a next-gen experience with a changed gameplay and presentation while bringing over our key modes, and we’re set up for OTP in EA Sports Hockey in the future.


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# 181 juice2142 @ 08/20/14 12:45 PM
also, what the guys said above. make them walk the walk and put in OTP before purchasing. This will be a $40 game by Xmas if sales are as down as I am expecting.
 
# 182 Madwolf @ 08/20/14 12:55 PM
I definitely think the game should have a price reduction given the lack of important features.

For me I'm going to buy the game, because I've always gotten the most enjoyment out of BaGM Offline and Connected.

It is however, incredibly disappointing to see that BaGM connected isn't in, because I was really looking forward to playing the game with my friends this year, and now that's obviously not going to happen, which makes me incredibly sad. I hope we can have multiple teams in Offline BaGM so I can play when my buddy comes over.

Losing EASHL REALLY hurts. I was stoked to play it this year, and it's probably the biggest disappointment for me in this whole process.

It all hurts worse knowing that HUT is in. It's hard to convince myself that HUT didn't get in just because it makes money post release.
 
# 183 Inhocmark @ 08/20/14 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Madwolf
I definitely think the game should have a price reduction given the lack of important features.

For me I'm going to buy the game, because I've always gotten the most enjoyment out of BaGM Offline and Connected.

It is however, incredibly disappointing to see that BaGM connected isn't in, because I was really looking forward to playing the game with my friends this year, and now that's obviously not going to happen, which makes me incredibly sad. I hope we can have multiple teams in Offline BaGM so I can play when my buddy comes over.

Losing EASHL REALLY hurts. I was stoked to play it this year, and it's probably the biggest disappointment for me in this whole process.

It all hurts worse knowing that HUT is in. It's hard to convince myself that HUT didn't get in just because it makes money post release.
I actually find the reasoning on HUT credible. It's really a skin of a default mode whereas OTP/EASHL is a different experience. What I don't get is that FIFA was able to incorporate their version directly into 14. Both games are built on the same campus. So why was the experience that the FIFA team had last season not shared with the NHL team? I get that ultimately the NHL team is going to have a lot less resources than the FIFA team but still...For a generation of console whose main raison d'etre is social gaming and online play, this seems like a cardinal sin.
 
# 184 kerosene31 @ 08/20/14 01:07 PM
I've bought every NHL game at launch since 07. Actually other than a few of the years before 7 I've bought the game since it existed.

I am definitely skipping this year. I only played a little EASHL and online GM, but I'm still not buying.

The NHL series went downhill as soon as the competition was gone. That's just the sad truth. Fifa still ends up getting improvements every year. Funny how that is the only game that has competition.

Sadly I will still buy Fifa this year most likely.

What offends me most is the lousy excuses for cutting these features. I love how "nobody played online GM"... year because it was horribly buggy. Fix it and people might play more. That was a great mode as you know who your online opponents will be and don't have to deal with the masses.

Also I wouldn't buy the game just so they don't cut down on the hockey dev team for next year. When Tiger Woods golf started going south they took a year off and hopefully will come back with a much improved game.

The whole push for Ultimate Team in games is terrible. Pay to win schemes are horrible. You either have to play hundreds of hours or pay through the nose to be good.
 
# 185 thejudicata @ 08/20/14 01:22 PM
Pre-Order cancelled.

I can't believe it. NHL 14 wasn't on next gen so that they allegedly could have more time to prepare NHL 15, and now 20 days before release they announce EASHL isn't in it?

I honestly can't remember a more BS move of any game I've been eagerly waiting for. Its one thing to not have it, but its a different animal when you basically take an extra year for next-gen development, and hold back the announcement 20 days before release.

I still want NHL 15, but **** if they aren't going to listen to their fan base I feel a point of pride to refuse to buy the game.

Disgusting on EA's part.....
 
# 186 Sip_16 @ 08/20/14 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thejudicata
Pre-Order cancelled.

I can't believe it. NHL 14 wasn't on next gen so that they allegedly could have more time to prepare NHL 15, and now 20 days before release they announce EASHL isn't in it?

I honestly can't remember a more BS move of any game I've been eagerly waiting for. Its one thing to not have it, but its a different animal when you basically take an extra year for next-gen development, and hold back the announcement 20 days before release.

I still want NHL 15, but **** if they aren't going to listen to their fan base I feel a point of pride to refuse to buy the game.

Disgusting on EA's part.....
This is what I don't understand with all the complaining of EASHL not being included. I get they took the extra year, I get other games have brought over all modes to next gen, but unless people have actually worked to create a video game (which I haven't) how do you know it was that easy to put into the game? People seem to think EA is leaving it out on purpose? Clearly that would be a dumb move considering the out rage.

I agree it is frustrating and only have a PS4 now, I can't play EASHL this year (casual player, lots of OTP) but to just point out how it should be in or they had so much time or spent it doing something else, all I have to say is How do you know?
 
# 187 bigwill33 @ 08/20/14 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sip_16
This is what I don't understand with all the complaining of EASHL not being included. I get they took the extra year, I get other games have brought over all modes to next gen, but unless people have actually worked to create a video game (which I haven't) how do you know it was that easy to put into the game? People seem to think EA is leaving it out on purpose? Clearly that would be a dumb move considering the out rage.

I agree it is frustrating and only have a PS4 now, I can't play EASHL this year (casual player, lots of OTP) but to just point out how it should be in or they had so much time or spent it doing something else, all I have to say is How do you know?
I don't think that any of us are saying it is easy. And we also wouldn't want it to be in the game and be buggy. But I think the major issue you are seeing is that EA didn't release 14 on the next gen consoles and their stance was because they wanted to deliver a complete experience and take their time to do it correctly. Here we are a year later and the game is finally coming out and we hear that we are getting a stripped down version.

On top of all of that we have this dropped in our laps just a mere two weeks before the game is available. The lack of communication and info about a video game title release in this day and age is unsettling and if you have been on top of everything going on then you know how messy this all has been handled. Where are the gameplay videos? Look how weirdly this game has been marketed. This is a first attempt on a new gen console and we have been left in the dark so much. That is why people feel hurt or betrayed.

I think we believe them, or most of us do for the most part, when they state that they didn't have enough time. But why? We don't know their inner workings, timelines, and develop cycle plans. All we know is that most sports games are entering year 2 and are fully featured when NHL is entering year 1 and is half featured. You can see the disconnect there, I would hope.

Some of us are speaking from the heart and not the brain, sure. Some of us are still seeing red and posting which is always dangerous and runs the risk of speaking in generality and rhetoric. But the majority of us just want answers. We just want to know why. Why does this game fail to deliver what so many others do? Why does this development team seem to keep coming up short of what is expected or planned? When will we finally have what we have come to know and when can we finally expect improvements to those modes.

Sure, in the grand scheme of things this is all very unimportant and should be kept in perspective, but accountability and professionalism is a standard in business today and at the end of the day that is all that people are seeking here. Some just don't go about it in a great way and unfortunately those are often the ones that get heard the most just because they made the most noise. But in this instance, the masses are upset for a change. And where there is smoke there is fire and asking questions and demanding answers is actually getting results.
 
# 188 ricky24 @ 08/20/14 03:01 PM
It was in the game the last 6 years. Are we supposed to believe it was impossible to include on a more powerful system?
 
# 189 Sip_16 @ 08/20/14 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigwill33
I don't think that any of us are saying it is easy. And we also wouldn't want it to be in the game and be buggy. But I think the major issue you are seeing is that EA didn't release 14 on the next gen consoles and their stance was because they wanted to deliver a complete experience and take their time to do it correctly. Here we are a year later and the game is finally coming out and we hear that we are getting a stripped down version.

Sure, in the grand scheme of things this is all very unimportant and should be kept in perspective, but accountability and professionalism is a standard in business today and at the end of the day that is all that people are seeking here. Some just don't go about it in a great way and unfortunately those are often the ones that get heard the most just because they made the most noise. But in this instance, the masses are upset for a change. And where there is smoke there is fire and asking questions and demanding answers is actually getting results.
I don't disagree with you because we don't know the inner workings and a lot of people seem to understand that. My only guess is their team is because their team is that much smaller compared to say FIFA or Madden that even with the extra time, it wasn't able to be completed.

You are right when just the angrier or ones who don't think it through much just put those feelings on the forum, and I get that. It sucks it isn't there, it sucks when certain things aren't improved or added on. I am just pumped for it regardless since I haven't played NHL since i sold my PS3 months ago and need my fix.
 
# 190 PJStock42 @ 08/20/14 03:49 PM
Who else is excited for next year's marketing blitz:

EA Sports NHL 16 with new EASHL mode!
 
# 191 PJStock42 @ 08/20/14 03:51 PM
This is like Toyota removing airbags from the Camry then releasing the 'All new 2016 Camry, now with airbags!'.
 
# 192 ricky24 @ 08/20/14 03:51 PM
You ask for it now you got it! And we built it from the bottom up. Eashl in NHL 16.
 
# 193 Shaffer26 @ 08/20/14 04:11 PM
This news has caused me to just stay away from this year's game(with exception to the occasional rent) as I was a most definite buy before news broke.
 
# 194 ricky24 @ 08/20/14 04:13 PM
I'll pick this up when it's 20 bucks on amazon. I'm guessing I'll have it around the holidays.
 
# 195 TDKing @ 08/20/14 04:15 PM
Seems to me they weren't prepared for next gen and bad decisions were made by the project manager. Deadlines were not met and he needs to be replaced! Sorry but that's just business. Fail
 
# 196 jbd345 @ 08/20/14 04:23 PM
They waited a year for this??? I'll be buying regardless since I've skipped out on '12 '13 and '14, but they could have just released this last year and the backlash probably wouldn't be as bad because of the shortened development period for sports games last year. It's honestly looking like they just took the year off and focused on presentation. I'll admit looks good, but that's not even half the game.
 
# 197 thejudicata @ 08/20/14 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sip_16
This is what I don't understand with all the complaining of EASHL not being included. I get they took the extra year, I get other games have brought over all modes to next gen, but unless people have actually worked to create a video game (which I haven't) how do you know it was that easy to put into the game? People seem to think EA is leaving it out on purpose? Clearly that would be a dumb move considering the out rage.

I agree it is frustrating and only have a PS4 now, I can't play EASHL this year (casual player, lots of OTP) but to just point out how it should be in or they had so much time or spent it doing something else, all I have to say is How do you know?
No I've never made a video game, but to think one has to make a video game in order to have credibility criticizing the video game is IMO crazy.

As has been pointed out, other EA sports games ported to next gen systems LAST YEAR without loss of games modes. NHL had an extra year and dropped the game mode I spend 90% of my time in.

Further, if you don't think EA had a manipulative and deceptive action in holding back this news until 20 days before release, I think its the equivalent of sticking your head in the sand. They only made an announcement after quite a bit of fan complaints. Without fan complaints, I doubt they would have even the common courtesy to inform fans prior to release EASHL mode is dropped.

As has been pointed out by one of the authors on this website, the problem isn't just the dropping of EASHL, but its how EA treats a very loyal and hardcore fan base, and handles their release of information.

I play EASHL and pre-order every year, and they just lost my business along with a lot of other loyal customers.

Yes EA is a business, and it probably was a business decision to not spend money on a larger development team to get EASHL into the game. Well then I'm not spending my money on your product. Just because its a business doesn't mean every penny saving move is a good and sound decision.

If I order a BLT sandwich and I'm given it without the bacon to save the Deli money, am I going to be a happy customer? Nope.
 
# 198 JimmyDeicide @ 08/20/14 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sip_16
This is what I don't understand with all the complaining of EASHL not being included. I get they took the extra year, I get other games have brought over all modes to next gen, but unless people have actually worked to create a video game (which I haven't) how do you know it was that easy to put into the game? People seem to think EA is leaving it out on purpose? Clearly that would be a dumb move considering the out rage.

I agree it is frustrating and only have a PS4 now, I can't play EASHL this year (casual player, lots of OTP) but to just point out how it should be in or they had so much time or spent it doing something else, all I have to say is How do you know?
But they have had 2 years to figure it out no? When did they figure out hey this is tougher than we thought? When the Fifa guys gave them the heads up?
Someone has dropped the ball over there clearly as Eashl is the 2nd biggest earner next to hut.
 
# 199 kerosene31 @ 08/20/14 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sip_16
This is what I don't understand with all the complaining of EASHL not being included. I get they took the extra year, I get other games have brought over all modes to next gen, but unless people have actually worked to create a video game (which I haven't) how do you know it was that easy to put into the game? People seem to think EA is leaving it out on purpose? Clearly that would be a dumb move considering the out rage.

I agree it is frustrating and only have a PS4 now, I can't play EASHL this year (casual player, lots of OTP) but to just point out how it should be in or they had so much time or spent it doing something else, all I have to say is How do you know?
Obviously part of it must have been EA not giving the dev team enough resources.

The problem is their excuses don't add up. If they can patch in OTP, why not EASHL?

As a few others have said, this will be a highly touted feature in NHL 16.

They claim that they re-did much of the game. I'll believe it when people actually get their hands on the game. Every year they claim to re-do the AI system and it barely changes.

They could prove me wrong and the gameplay could be completely new, but obviously people get where much of the cynicism comes from.
 
# 200 13whitebread @ 08/20/14 06:21 PM
Plus rammer picks and chooses what questions he wants on the other thread what a debacle of epic proportions. Shameful a company that was voted worst company last year can actually top itself. No competition means what we are getting........ A lot of less!
 


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