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Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

01:25 PM - February 7, 2009 by Michael_Young_EA

This week we are starting to go through the rosters and tune each individual player's body to match their real life counter part.

I know as a fan when one of your favorite players is wrong it can take you out of the experience.

So the question to you is: Which players need the most work? Please give specifics. On the flip side are there any players you wouldn't touch?

Thanks as always,

Mike Y

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# 81 BezO @ 02/08/09 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael_Young_EA


	This is pretty accurate to what we do. We basically build a prototypical body for each position and assign it to the bulk of the players in the game. We then add on accurate height and weight.

This explains a lot. Is this how you all used to do it or are you all still using this method?

I'd imagine you'd need 12 or so types per position to have models begin to resemble their real life counterparts... tall/slim, tall/medium, tall/muscular, tall/fat, short/slim...

Randy Moss & Steve Smith play the same position & couldn't look more different. Jeff Garcia & JaMarcus Russell shouldn't be cut from the same mold either.

I won't mention any specific players as I feel 95% of them need work.

# 82 gabs485 @ 02/08/09 03:41 PM

My biggest gripe with some players models are the legs. Specially the calves, they are too skinny. Thighs in some running backs and wrs aren't big enough either.

But no matter how similar you make the body it won't be noticeable if you don't let us modify the sock height just like Ncaa.

It would make a huge difference, As it now it just looks odd and weird. There is no depth on the sock. It looks like a 2 color long sock and make players look like clowns.

So I'm begging you!! Please let us customize the sock height.

Fitz uses low socks

Desean uses high socks

Asante uses medium socks

And colored shoes too!!

# 83 Jistic @ 02/08/09 03:42 PM

In general Michael, I still think many Madden models are too short and stocky. Especially skill guys or DB's. I'd like to see some more length, height, etc. Not everybody is a stocky fireplug in the NFL. Players like Urlacher really don't have giant biceps. I guess in one word the players need to look more ATHLETIC.

# 84 Blkcanes @ 02/08/09 03:58 PM

Sense we are able to add equipment I was wondering players with their cleats tape up to there shin it is way to high.

Look at his cleats that are tape up in madden there are way to big and way to high and I think the white sock must be shown when on the field or it's a fine from the NFL so we should not be able to do it in the game.

Chad Johnson, yes he is dark but he is not as dark as the game makes him to be.

Look at his cleats. the tape is slightly above his ankle but it is not to high. In Madden there is two choice very low or big and very high pass the white socks

and to help you out on the very high socks take a look at Bernard Berrian in this picture

They are very high in the picture but notice his white sock is still showing all NFL players must fallow the uniform rule,(i think)and notice how thin the tape is. In madden the tape are way to thick when you want to make the tape around that player higher. "MY" do you think you would be able to make the tape thinner in the game have the white sock showing at all times. Can we WE PLEASEE! be able to pick the color cleats a player wears I like to mix it up a lot. Don't need any more color just want to be able to choose between White or black. Please. I would really like to hear your input on this I do not think this is that hard to add but I can always be hard. Thanks

Donaldson

# 85 SteelerSpartan @ 02/08/09 04:23 PM

These are Equip Changes needed after having downloaded the last Roster Update for 09

Steelers

Foote
Keisel
Parker
Woodley
Ryan Clark
Anthony Smith
Hampton
Aaron Smith
Taylor
Carter
McFadden
Gay
Townsend
Woodley
Hoke
Washington
Mendenhall
Davis

^^They all have the Sleeveless Option

Ben Roethlisberger- In Warm Weather Games( Remove Black Sleeves, Remove Right wrist band, add sweatband white to right elbow)

Cold Weather( Leave the same as you have it except remove Right wrist band)

Santonio Holmes- Change Helmet to Standard 2, change mask to 3 Bar RB, Smoke Visor, Remove White Sleeves,

Willie Parker- Remove Elbow Pads, add Thin Band Blacks

Aaron Smith- Change Helmet to a Rev QB

Casey Hampton-Change Helmet to a Rev QB

Ryan Clark- Change Helmet to a Standard Robot RB

Townsend-Change mask to 3 Bar RB

Woodley- Remove Half Sleeve Blacks, add Black Wrist Bands

Nate Washington- Change Face Mask to 3 Bar RB Single

Keisel- Change Mask to Revo Full Cage 2, Change Med bands on Elbows to black

Hartwig- Change Helmet to Rev, with Revo Full Cage 2 mask, and Black RubberPad

Kemoeato- Add Dbl Wristbands Black to Left Wrist, add Padding Black to left Elbow, add black wrist band to right

Timmons- Change Helmet to Standard, Change mask to 3 Bar RB, add Clear Visor, Remove Black Elbow Bands, Remove Half Sleeve White, add White Taped Wrists Normal, Remove White Tape on ankles

I'll probably look into some other teams star players later

# 86 Obelysk @ 02/08/09 05:48 PM

How come the Chicago Bear wide receivers don't wear their orange gloves? I know they have several that wear orange but for some reason in the game they only have blue, black and white. Also the shoes:

# 87 Flo @ 02/08/09 08:49 PM

Same question I asked in Ian's thread last week and did not get a response: Will the PS3 version be 1080P or will we get screwed again like we have for 3 years running? The lack of an answer in last week's thread seems to indicate it will not be.

I realize we are months away, but you guys already know the answer to this one, so tell us.

Flo

# 88 Stroehms @ 02/08/09 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flo


	Same question I asked in Ian's thread last week and did not get a response: Will the PS3 version be 1080P or will we get screwed again like we have for 3 years running? The lack of an answer in last week's thread seems to indicate it will not be. I realize we are months away, but you guys already know the answer to this one, so tell us. Flo

This would be the wrong place to ask. Try PMing him.

# 89 falconfanATL#3 @ 02/08/09 09:11 PM

1. Kellen Winslow Jr., to beefy, the guy has the build of a wr in reallife
2. The attire and uniforms need more work
3. Calvin Johnson, hips are too big NO HOMO
4. All speedy WR
5. Built TE like Vernon Davis and Gates

# 90 Unforgiven @ 02/08/09 09:18 PM

I'll point out equipment for the Dolphins:

Ronnie Brown: Take arm bands off, put on white/orange gloves, add clear visor

Joey Porter: Take off the elbow pads, give white/orange gloves

^^^^

PLEASE add an option for a loose belt! They both have a hanging belt, and I really think that could really make them a lot more real to their counterparts if added.

Ted Ginn: Nothing on arms, give white/black gloves, remove visor

Davone Bess; Remove the arm bands

Kendall Langford: He is not the fridge .. please make him look like a DE, not a NT

# 91 falconfanATL#3 @ 02/08/09 09:29 PM

The game needs more nfl equipment
1. Secondary team color gloves, like deion Branch lime green, randy moss's bright red, and s.Holmes pitts. yellow
2. Hand warmers worn around the waste during cold games
3. make new cleats and gloves unlockables
4. TATOOSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
5. eye black
6. DNA helmets like ken hamlin and LT

# 92 adub88 @ 02/08/09 09:51 PM

In terms of equipment edits, almost every NFL team has player pics on their website. Please give us the most customizable player editor ever in '10!!! I really do hope a ton of work is going into getting guys looking like their real life counterparts right out of the box.

If there was one thing that really annoyed me during the PS2 days was having to edit soo many player builds, weights, heights, equipment etc. All this information is highly accessible and should not be incorrect.

# 93 Flo @ 02/08/09 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stroehmerbasebal


	This would be the wrong place to ask. Try PMing him.

Thanks Stro. I PM'd Ian. I didn't think it would be so hard to get a simple yes or no answer from EA.

Flo

# 94 Stroehms @ 02/08/09 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flo


	Thanks Stro. I PM'd Ian. I didn't think it would be so hard to get a simple yes or no answer from EA. Flo

Hey, no prob

# 95 likesbacon @ 02/09/09 12:24 AM

Maurice Jones-Drew needs a change. Currently he is the correct height but his proportions aren't right. By that I mean his in-game counterpart is really skinny and has small thighs. They don't call him pocket Hercules for nothing.

# 96 maxamilian 27 @ 02/09/09 12:49 AM

This is next gen. I am not going to be super specific or anything. I'm just going to state obvious things that should be in a next gen game, things that have already been in the game and things that aren't currently in the game.
1. tatoos-all of them on everyone period, all the 2k basketball games have tatoos. to help you developers the tatoos can be blurry or not that specific when the camera is far away but on close shots, specify.
2.team color cleats. the shoe can be majority white but a large chunk of the shoe should be the teams color.
3.mouth pieces. (was already in the game before on last gen platforms)
4.scrapes should occur on the helmets throughout the game.(was already on last gen platforms) look anything that you already had in the game that really happens on the field why take it off if it still actually happens.
5.the equipment has come along way. i remember when u couldnt put anything on your arms if your player had sleeves on. but handwarmers should be added. the NFL and team logos shoud be an option when choosing arm equipment.but overall you guys have done a really good job with the equipment.

# 97 Palo20 @ 02/09/09 01:48 AM

I have a couple of complaints about equipment:

1) We should be able to fully customize each player for both warm and cold weather games. For example, Maurice Jones-Drew does not have sleeves in the equipment edit screen, but I played an exhibition game in the snow with him and he came out in White sleeves. That's my next point....

2) Each team should just have one sleeve color. The Jaguars wear black sleeves, so everyone on the team that wears sleeves should wear black--not some guys wearing white or teal.

# 98 oChaos_Nine @ 02/09/09 02:43 AM

Fix the size of the feet. More cleat and glove options. WE NEED CUSTOMIZATION!

edit: And helmets.

# 99 Instant C1a55ic @ 02/09/09 03:50 AM

i would have to say Jay Cutler. His arms look REALLY skinny when in real life he has a little muscle on them.

# 100 Avii @ 02/09/09 07:16 AM

Hi Micheal,

I have not played the '09 version of madden since you guys left us PC users out in the cold. I played the '08 version last.

But anyway, I'd like to know if these are addressed which I consider to be very relevant details to up the ante in realism.

Are there multiple shoes/ shoe types? Can a player change these etc. (presumably via editor in the franchise at all times).
Is it possible that helmets pop like they used to? And see the guy go pick up his helmet etc. would be really awesome.

Also, please include many different scenes for winning the superbowls and stuff. The same celebration year after year sucks.
Also, we need the cheerleaders back. Making the cheerleader squad somewhat editable in the franchise mode would be awesome too (like a stadium upgrade, maybe its too much micromanaging but give it a shot).

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